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Official Review [Album]: "A SONG FOR YOU" (SP-3511)

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Chris May, Apr 12, 2013.

HOW WOULD YOU RATE THIS ALBUM?

  1. ***** (BEST)

    38 vote(s)
    70.4%
  2. ****

    12 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. ***

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  4. **

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. *

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    Jonathan, have you watched the Song For You intro to MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC? I swear Karen shines. When that contralto of hers plunges into the mesmorized and oft lauded lower register...there are few words to describe my intoxication.
     
  2. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    ^^^ I LOVE the MMM version of the song! With they had rerecorded it. I like the original too, but there's something about the "older and wiser" version that gets to me.
     
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  3. Song4uman

    Song4uman Active Member

    Yes I have seen it. Love it!!!!!
     
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  4. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I love that version as well, really wish they'd re-recorded the full song.
     
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  5. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    FL
    Here is another interesting promo ad used to promote the single, "I Won't Last A Day Without You"
    So do you feel the marketing worked? Do you feel it did just as well as the other 2 singles it mentions in the ad?
    (special thanks to Harry for his photoshop skills, ad was in pretty bad shape, I could not have done it any better!!)


    Cashbox April 20, 1974
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    Maybe highlighting that Carpenters were releasing a third Roger / Nichols composition in quite a short space of time wasn't such a good idea. Actually, it was a fourth, because originally, 'I Kept on Loving You' was listed as the 'A' side of 'Close to You'. Richard has said that he also could have released another - 'Let Me Be the One' - as an 'A' side.

    Having said that, 'I Won't Last a Day Without You' had a meteoric rise on the Billboard charts and looked like it was going to be a massive smash, up with their biggest. It went from Number 70 to 50 to 35 to 21 to 15 to 12 to 11 and then started to drop. Leaping 14 places within the Top 40 was fairly unusual back then and probably gave indications of an upcoming blockbuster.

    The fact that Carpenters had released the song two years before, on the 'A Song for You' album, would have diminished its chances of being a huge success. Apparently, it had already had airplay over the two years, without being available as a single.

    Maureen McGovern had heard Carpenters version and released her own single of the song in the meantime. Her version was on the charts only six months before Carpenters' version, which would have taken a bit of the sting out of Karen and Richard's version. It might have made it less likely for DJs to play the song, if they'd only just been spinning Maureen McGovern's version, even though hers only touched the lower end of the Top 100.

    Nevertheless, Number 11 isn't too measly as a peak.

    Source for chart positions:- 'Joel Whitburn Presents the Billboard Hot 100 Charts - The 70s', ISBN 0 89820 076 8.
     
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  7. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    Williams / Nichols, I meant. :)
     
  8. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I don't get the message - what 'happens' exactly? None of these songs went to #1, so that's not what 'happened' and the last one didn't even fare as well as the first two when it was released. Confusing campaign idea...
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    They could be talking about the magic or the million-selling status of the first two songs or the gold or the perfect flow from songwriter to artist to sublime recording or the success of the creative partnership, trying to will the same level of success onto 'I Won't Last a Day Without You', (which didn't quite happen). The energy released from these recordings is still out there. It's still happening.
     
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  10. UK people tend to be hyper-focused on the number 1 position in their charts, far more so than we do here in the States. I've seen past campaigns by fans to get their favorite song to #1 in the UK and feel like they've failed if it only makes #2.

    It's not that way in the US. A record that reaches the top 10 gets significant airplay here and is considered a big hit. The two prior Carpenters Nichols/Williams records made it to #2, the almost-equal of a #1, but without the beauty-pageant-winner prestige. So wishing for that kind of success again from the same songwriters would have been a valuable promotional point. Those songs "happened".

    And being from a year-or-more old album, "I Won't Last A Day Without You" still pushed its way to #11 Billboard, #9 Cashbox, #1 Adult Contemporary - real close to that magic top 10 and number 1 status.
     
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  11. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Buried among so many compilations, I have neglected to listen to the CD-Compilation:
    Treasures (Pickwick, UK-16 tracks,1990--my copy "Made In France").
    As already documented in the Resources on the Forum, here we get to listen to the
    special mix of Road Ode.
    And, too, another favorite:
    Bless The Beasts and the Children.

    This Compilation, UK-Treasures is interesting in other respects:
    4 songs taken from Close To You (but, not inclusive We've Only Just Begun !),
    3 songs taken from Voice of The Heart (Look To Your Dreams, Now, Make Believe),
    2 songs from A Song For You,
    2 songs from Passage (good ones: Argentina (no Balcony) and I Just Fall In Love Again).
    One song from each of:
    Offering (Eve) Horizon (Desperado), Made In America (Because We Are In Love) ,
    Tan (Let Me Be The One) and Hush (I Need To Be In Love).

    And, a quick search shows ready availability at very minimal expense !
    In short, an interesting one-disc compilation that I believe is well worth owning.
    Apparently, there is a 1992 cd release from Spain.
     
  12. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    I Won't Last A Day Without You is one of my favorite songs. The fact that it went as high as it did considering it came almost 2 years after the album release when the single before was also derived from this prior album (understanding the exact version is from The Singles album) while it had the same sound as The Singles album is a feat in my book. Other artists had moved toward a developed sound while the Carpenters seemed to have been stuck in 1972. It's highest number achievement does not diminish the value of the song compared to the others.
     
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  13. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Me too, absolutely love this song. When Karen sings that chorus (the "hook" if you will) there is power behind that voice. She sings powerfully without sounding overpowering, if that makes since. Very similar to the hook on Bless The Beasts...It seemed to be a quality to her vocals that unfortunately, she got away from as her career progressed :sad:.
     
  14. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Karen's lead vocal was doubled in the choruses of both these song, I think that's what you're hearing here. On the former, she had sores on her vocal chords the day they recorded it, so she struggled to match her "other" voice when it came to doubling up the vocal.
     
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  15. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Ok, that might explain the sound that I was liking. As I recall, She sang this song on their first TV special during the medley and I was kind of disappointed that I wasn't hearing that same "sound" that really got me to sit up and take notice, like was on the LP. But I figured it was just the particular way she was singing the medley (slowing it down a bit). I am quite novice about all the technical nuances that go into making a recording:hmmm:...but I'm learning a lot from this forum:)!
     
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  16. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Yep it's two of Karen that you're hearing on the album version. She obviously couldn't do that live on the TV special unless her voice was pre-recorded and she sang live over the top of it. That rarely works live because you have to match the phrasing and diction exactly to pull it off. In the studio they had plenty of time to get that right :)
     
  17. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Gee...I really like Randy Edelman's performance of his
    Piano Picker:
     

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