I think the fact that a lot of fans feel dissatisfaction with Made in America (while a minority conversely hold it in high regard) is precisely why there's so much discussion on it. I'd agree that it's one of their two worst albums along with A Kind of Hush, but whereas that album's problems I can justify by fatigue and a lack of focus, the plan behind Made in America seems to have been much more deliberate, making its weakness that much more baffling. Plus you've got its status as the 'reaction' album following Karen's solo album, the disappointing chart performance of the LP and most of its singles when it should have been a strong 'comeback', along with the fact that some of the outtakes from the recording sessions seem much stronger than many songs that ended up on the album. Plus Richard's positive comments on the album seem at odds with what many of the fans think about it. So there's a lot to talk about!