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Sergio's Brasil '66 Grammy Noms

Discussion in 'Look Around: Sergio Mendes/Brazilian Music Forum' started by JMK, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. JMK Active Member

    I think it might have been Bill who asked a long time ago what Grammy noms Sergio had prior to his Brasileiro win, and I knew that he had had one for Fool on the Hill, though I evidently misremembered who had actually won that year. With the release of the new Grammy nominations last night, I did a little more digging around and discovered there were actually two nominations for Fool on the Hill, one for Dave Grusin's orchestrations (take that, naysayers! :wink: ), and the other for Contemporary Pop Vocal Performance. I think I had posted previously that I thought the 5th Dimension had won that year, but it looks like it was actually Simon and Garfunkle for Mrs. Robinson. I did a cursory look through the 1967-71 nominees and it looks to me like these two are the only Brasil '66 era noms Sergio received.
    JMK, Dec 1, 2011
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  2. A&Mguyfromwayback Member

    This is one of those questions that it's just a liitle too nerdy toactually ask Sergio, but maybe someday I will; I would die to know.... the 1967 Grammys (honoring music put out in '66) is the only one in the entire history of the awards not to have a Best New Artist category - it certainly wasn't for lack of new artists, and I could pretty well guarantee, giving the predilections of NARAS, that Brasil '66 would have been up for it.....
    A&Mguyfromwayback, Dec 2, 2011
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  3. Rudy Spinning The Wheels Of Steel

    Yellowjackets landed two nominations this year, so we're hoping they get at least one win out of it. :D
    Rudy, Dec 2, 2011
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  4. Captain Bacardi Administrator

    Actually, I kind of wonder about whether Brasil '66 would have qualified as a "new artist". Sergio had been around for a while, and he had a Brasil '65. Would simply changing the name to Brasil '66 be enough to consider them as new at the time?
    Captain Bacardi, Dec 2, 2011
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  5. JMK Active Member

    He absolutely would have been eligible. New Artist is defined as an artist releasing their first album in the eligible time period, and that was Brasil '66's first album.
    JMK, Dec 2, 2011
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  6. Harry Administrator

    On a side note, I read through the current Grammy nominees and realized just how out-of-it, current-music-wise I am. I barely recognized any of the names of artists and hardly any of the songs or albums that got nominated. The only two things I happen to own are both in the "Country Music" category. It must be that move South I made...

    Harry
    Harry, Dec 2, 2011
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  7. Captain Bacardi Administrator

    Gotta disagree with you on this one. It wasn't Brasil '66 - it was Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66. Sergio wasn't a new artist at the time.
    Captain Bacardi, Dec 2, 2011
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  8. JMK Active Member

    Then by the same logic, Crosby, Stills & Nash should have been ineligible for winning (as they did) in 1970, The Partridge Family shouldn't have been nominated because Shirley Jones had released tons of albums by 1971, Deodato shouldn't have been nominated in 1974, Take 6 shouldn't have been nominated in 1989 since *several* of their members had recorded previously, etc., etc. :)
    JMK, Dec 2, 2011
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  9. Rudy Spinning The Wheels Of Steel

    I think they go by the performing unit. IOW, the grouping of "Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66" is a separate unit from "Sergio Mendes Trio" or "Sergio Mendes" alone. On the flip side, what about Herb Alpert? If Rise had a Grammy nomination, wouldn't that qualify as a "new artist" even though a Tijuana Brass album may already have been nominated in the past? Or does "new artist" mean it's the first time an artist has been nominated for an award?

    No matter. It's not up to us to decide--it's the NARAS whose guidelines are used to determine if it's a new artist or not. Seeing that the Grammy awards really don't have much musical significance anymore (it's more a popularity contest among NARAS voters than anything else, from what I can tell), I can't say I really care one way or the other how it all works. It's just nice to see favorite bands and musicians recognized with nominations and awards (which helps them sell more recordings), and I leave it at that. In the tough climate of the music industry, they need all the help they can get.
    Rudy, Dec 3, 2011
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  10. JMK Active Member

    I have been another "nerd" :wink: for years wondering why 1967 was the only year they didn't award Best New Artist. It just doesn't make any sense. I'm also with Harry in looking over the noms this year (even looking over the Best New Artist awards for the past several years)--I'm clearly out of the "preferred" demographic LOL.
    JMK, Dec 3, 2011
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  11. Mr Bill Administrator

    I think we're all out of that demographic. Sad I had to watch (from here in Afghanistan no less) Christmas from Rockefeller Center on NBC to hear and see artists whom I knew and had heard of (plus a few I hadn't)...
    Mr Bill, Dec 4, 2011
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  12. Rudy Spinning The Wheels Of Steel

    I think too, what the general public does not realize is that the current popular music is only a small fraction of all available new releases each year. For each Top 40 artist there are hundreds more that are worthy of listening to yet overlooked and underappreciated. So much out there...
    Rudy, Dec 5, 2011
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