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What is your favorite tune from each respective Herb album? JUST ONE!

Discussion in 'The Beat of The Brass: Herb Alpert/Tijuana Brass' started by toeknee4bz, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    Ok, let's play a little game here: If you had to pick... just ONE track and ONE track only, from each of the 42 released albums in Herb's catalogue... which would you choose? These are the songs that, for unanswerable reasons, will just stick in your head. Or think of it this way: Which song off of each album can you just not live without? I'll go first:

    1. The Lonely Bull (THE LONELY BULL)
    2. Spanish Harlem (VOLUME 2)
    3. South of the Border (SOUTH OF THE BORDER)
    4. Green Peppers (WHIPPED CREAM & OTHER DELIGHTS)
    5. Tijuana Taxi (!!GOING PLACES!!)
    6. Cantina Blue (WHAT NOW MY LOVE)
    7. Freight Train Joe (S.R.O.)
    8. The Charmer (...SOUNDS LIKE...)
    9. My Heart Belongs To Daddy (HERB ALPERT'S NINTH)
    10. A Beautiful Friend (THE BEAT OF THE BRASS)
    11. Las Mananitas (THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM)
    12. Girl Talk (WARM)
    13. I'll Be Back (THE BRASS ARE COMIN')
    14. Darlin' (SUMMERTIME)
    15. Last Tango In Paris (YOU SMILE-THE SONG BEGINS)
    16. I Belong (CONEY ISLAND)
    17. Musique (JUST YOU AND ME)
    18. Skokiaan (HERB ALPERT/HUGH MASEKELA)
    19. Shame The Devil (MAIN EVENT LIVE)
    20. Rise (RISE)
    21. Reach For The Stars (BEYOND)
    22. Magic Man (MAGIC MAN)
    23. Route 101 (FANDANGO)
    24. Latin Lady (BLOW YOUR OWN HORN)
    25. Love Without Words (BULLISH)
    26. No Time For Time (WILD ROMANCE)
    27. Our Song (KEEP YOUR EYE ON ME)
    28. I Need You (UNDER A SPANISH MOON)
    29. Legs (MY ABSTRACT HEART)
    30. Where's Tommy? (NORTH ON SOUTH ST.)
    31. Friends (MIDNIGHT SUN)
    32. Side Steppin' (SECOND WIND)
    33. Baila Conmigo (PASSION DANCE)
    34. Magic Man '99 (HERB ALPERT & COLORS)
    35. Promises, Promises (LOST TREASURES)
    36. Whipped Cream (RE-WHIPPED)
    37. It's Only A Paper Moon (ANYTHING GOES)
    38. What Now My Love (I FEEL YOU)
    39. Jacky's Place (STEPPIN' OUT)
    40. Begin The Beguine (IN THE MOOD)
    41. Blue Skies (COME FLY WITH ME)
    42. Don't Go Breaking My Heart (HUMAN NATURE)
     
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  2. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

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    Ouch, do I have to think so early in the morning? :D

    I'll take a stab at some of the records. I think it is interesting to see everyone's responses, as different songs resonate with everyone. Some albums, it's hard to pick any one song, so my favorite could change on any given day. Some seem really obvious (like "A Taste of Honey") but they seem to best embody the spirit of the entire album and remain a favorite nonetheless. Sometimes, I will gravitate towards one song even when playing a favorite album, such as my oddball pick for Going Places (which is tough, since "Tijuana Taxi," "Third Man Theme," "Walk Don't Run," "And the Angels Sing" and "Zorba" are also big favorites). Or a couple of albums where not any one song stands out, and it's hard to choose one I'd want to single out.

    Lonely Bull -- Crawfish
    Volume 2 -- A-Me-Ri-Ca
    South of the Border -- Mexican Shuffle
    Whipped Cream -- A Taste of Honey
    Going Places -- Mae
    What Now My Love -- What Now My Love
    S.R.O. -- Blue Monday
    Sounds Like -- Casino Royale
    Ninth -- The Love Nest
    Beat of the Brass -- Panama
    Warm -- The Sea Is My Soil
    Brass are Comin' -- Good Morning Mr. Sunshine (perhaps the most "mariachi" song they ever did)
    Summertime -- Summertime
    You Smile--The Song Begins -- Last Tango in Paris
    Coney Island -- Vento Bravo
    Just You and Me -- Musique
    Herb/Hugh -- Lobo
    Main Event Live -- Foreign Natives
    Rise -- Behind The Rain
    Beyond -- Beyond
    Magic Man -- Magic Man
    Fandango -- Route 101
    Blow Your Own Horn -- Red Hot
    Bullish -- Always Have a Dream
    Wild Romance -- It's All For You
    Keep Your Eye On Me -- Pillow
    Under a Spanish Moon -- I Need You
    My Abstract Heart -- 3 O'Clock Jump
    North on South St. -- Passion Lady
    Lost Treasures -- Promises, Promises (kind of a cheater because I couldn't pick two for You Smile :wink: )
     
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  3. I recall an ancient thread on the old board from two decades ago when we did this exercise for the TjB albums only, so this is a good updating of that. Here's the way I approach this. You've got a few minutes to listen to a song. You grab a Herb Alpert album - which song do you pick to listen to from each of the albums?

    1. A Quiet Tear (THE LONELY BULL)
    2. Winds Of Barcelona (VOLUME 2)
    3. Up Cherry Street (SOUTH OF THE BORDER)
    4. A Taste Of Honey (WHIPPED CREAM & OTHER DELIGHTS)
    5. Mae (!!GOING PLACES!!)
    6. What Now My Love (WHAT NOW MY LOVE)
    7. The Wall Street Rag (S.R.O.)
    8. Wade In The Water (...SOUNDS LIKE...)
    9. Carmen (HERB ALPERT'S NINTH)
    10. This Guy's In Love With You (THE BEAT OF THE BRASS)
    11. My Favorite Things (THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM)
    12. The Sea Is My Soil (WARM)
    13. You Are My Life (THE BRASS ARE COMIN')
    14. Summertime (SUMMERTIME)
    15. Fox Hunt (YOU SMILE-THE SONG BEGINS)
    16. Coney Island (CONEY ISLAND)
    17. Promenade (JUST YOU AND ME)
    18. Lobo (HERB ALPERT/HUGH MASEKELA)
    19. She-Been (MAIN EVENT LIVE)
    20. 1980 (RISE)
    21. Red Hot (BEYOND)
    22. Magic Man (MAGIC MAN)
    23. Route 101 (FANDANGO)
    24. Gently (Suavemente) (BLOW YOUR OWN HORN)
    24½. Noche De Amor (NOCHE DE AMOR)
    25. Passion Play (BULLISH)
    26. No Time For Time (WILD ROMANCE)
    27. Cat Man Do (KEEP YOUR EYE ON ME)
    28. Fragile (UNDER A SPANISH MOON)
    29. When The Lights Go Down Low (MY ABSTRACT HEART)
    30. Jump Street (NORTH ON SOUTH ST.)
    31. Someone To Watch Over Me (MIDNIGHT SUN)
    32. Second Wind (SECOND WIND)
    33. T.K.O. (PASSION DANCE)
    34. Libertango (HERB ALPERT & COLORS)
    35. Speakeasy (LOST TREASURES)
    36. Bittersweet Samba (RE-WHIPPED)
    37. The Trolley Song (ANYTHING GOES)
    38. Something Cool (I FEEL YOU)
    39. Puttin' On The Ritz (STEPPIN' OUT)
    40. Chattanooga Choo-Choo (IN THE MOOD)
    41. Got A Lot Of Livin' To Do (COME FLY WITH ME)
    42. Doodles (HUMAN NATURE)

    I added NOCHE DE AMOR as a sort-of album number 24½.
     
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  4. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    I agree with quite a few of your picks, and there were a few that, on a particular given day, just might just as easily replace a few of my own picks.
    I have to say, though, that I really never cared for the BRASS ARE COMIN' version of "Good Morning, Mr. Sunshine". Like "Mae" from GOING PLACES, it just soaked in the syrupy string orchestration... which is fine, if that's what you like. I just prefer strings to be a bit more laid back. For this reason, as well as rhythm, I preferred the STEPPIN' OUT version.
    "Foreign Natives" is pure JAM. Nine minutes of loud, kick-butt, crazy fast and the most intense of any Herb track I've ever heard. So why did I not pick it for my MAIN EVENT fave? Hey, on another day I might have... ! :wink:
    At any rate... great choices!
     
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  5. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    Same notation as my reply to Rudy above: Great choices! As for NOCHE, I am particularly mesmorized by "Sueno Precolombino".
     
  6. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

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    One of the picks I struggled with was for Blow Your Own Horn, since I never warmed (not even "luke-warmed" :D ) to that album at all. Picking "Red Hot" was sort of a grab at anything just to fill in an album in the list; I should have skipped it. Although I prefer this mix of "Red Hot" over the original mix--it is not as muddy.

    I probably gravitate to those tracks with strings just because they are different from everything else. Sound quality has a lot to do with it also--"Mae" has quite an expansive soundstage to it, so that is one of its appeals for me.

    One thing I noticed today was that the Bullish album sounds a little stuffy in the mastering (of the original vinyl version). Once I get the new tubes in for the amp in a week or so, I'll break those in and give the record another spin. That is another track where it seems to envelope the listener, and sounds quite good because of it. It is nicely arranged and orchestrated.
     
  7. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    You don't like the BLOW YOUR OWN HORN album?

    OW!!! YA HURTIN' ME HERE!!! :wink: Just kidding. Of course, I am a child of the 70s and 80s. I was always more open to the synthpop styles and electronic drums, etc. I always considered this album to be more of an American extension of FANDANGO, with several tracks written by Juan Carlos Calderon and co-produced by Jose Quintana. Granted, they're nowhere near as Spanish in style as the tracks on FANDANGO, but they're compelling nonetheless. "Latin Lady" and "Oriental Eyes" are timeless, IMHO.
     
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  8. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

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    I guess I'm a child of the 70s and 80s also. :wink: But really, that album never appealed to me--just something about it that I never could warm to. It seemed like leftover tracks from Fandango, a reissue of "Red Hot," some H-D-H tracks thrown in as filler...and not one of the songs ever reached out and grabbed me like, say, nearly every track on Fandango. In contrast, many here dislike Keep Your Eye On Me, but since I was big into Prince and The Time before most people knew who they were, and followed the Minneapolis scene as a result, the album just fell right into that same niche I was already heavily into. Funk and R&B also played heavily here. And synthpop in general? A lot of us here were into groups like Yazoo (with the Upstairs at Eric's album)--can't get much more synth than that, I would guess. :wink:

    That's just the way the rekkid spins, I guess. :D Some of it works for us, some doesn't.
     
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  9. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I think I will attempt to give a few cents worth here
    The Lonely Bull .Limbo Rock
    Volume 2 America
    South of the Border. Salud AMOR Y Dinero
    Whipped cream Butterball
    Going places Felicia
    What Now My Love Memories of Madrid
    S.R.O Flamingo
    Sounds like. The charmer
    Herb alpert's ninth The Happening
    Beat of the brass She Touched Me
    Christmas album Las Mananitas
    Warm The Continental
    The Brass are comin. Moments
    Summertime If you could read my mind
    You smile the song begins. ( the title track)
    Coney island Ratatouille
    Just you and me musique
    Herb and Hugh Ring Bell
    Main event live I'm coming home
    Rise Love Is
    Beyond That's the way of the world
    Magic man I Get it from you
    Fandango Sugarloaf
    Blow your own Horn Latin Lady
    Bullish Life is my song
    Wild romance No time for time
    Keep your eye on me our song
    Under a Spanish moon Hidden angel
    My abstract heart wish you were here
    North on South Street I can't Stop thinking about you
    Midnight sun Silent tears and roses
    Second wind Sugar cane
    Passion dance Creeping
    Colors The Lady in my life
    Lost treasures Up cherry street
    Rewhipped Lollipops and roses
    Anything goes morning coffee
    I feel you call me
    Stepping out and the angels sing
    In the mood 5am
    Come fly with me something
    Human nature Don't go breaking my heart

    Whew it was not easy choosing because there are just too many favorites but I chose my standouts I know they won't be everyone's favorites and it's OK
     
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  10. Mike Blakesley

    Mike Blakesley Well-Known Member Moderator

    Wow, I discovered this thread too late at night to do it now...I'm going to have to look at some album covers and make some very tough choices. The mid-period Brass in particular, it's almost impossible to pick ONE tune. But I'll give it a shot!
     
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  11. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    WOW! Some unexpected ones on here! I LLLLLIKE IT!!!
    Blew my mind when I saw "Love Is" from RISE listed. It is a catchy chorus, though.
    "Sugarloaf" from FANDANGO would've been a strong contender for me, but nothing on that album could replace "Route 101". The whole album is incredible, mind you. But there's just something about "Route 101" that captivates me.
    You're now the third so far to pick "No Time For Time" from WILD ROMANCE. It really is one of Herb's best vocal efforts, if not the best... IMHO. "I Get It From You" from MAGIC MAN is another great vocal gem too.
    Sometimes I've had "Creepin" from PASSION DANCE just 'creep' into my head, and it was a strong contender for my list as well. But "Baila Conmigo" won out, just for the simple sake of its compelling earworm quality.
    I never was too crazy about the RE-WHIPPED album, but I've gotta admit that "Lollipops and Roses" was pretty innovative in the remix.
    And "5am" from IN THE MOOD... I mean, WOW. Have you ever heard something so sultry, yet so soothing in a Herb and Lani track? Her lower octave range is just downright phenomenal. Also a strong contender for my list, but "Begin the Beguine" just sticks in my head.
    I couldn't help notice that "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" was a fave. The fresh, new version from HUMAN NATURE is now my preferred one too, but I have always enjoyed the S.R.O. version as well... and still do.
     
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  12. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    That's probably the way I should've worded it too.
     
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  13. A few of my picks actually require some alternate versions.

    "What Now My Love" has to be the wetter LP version.
    "The Sea Is My Soil" needs to be from my clean LP.
    "You Are My Life" needs to come from a de-CSG'ed version.
    "Jump Street" needs to be the Brighton Daze remix.
    "Bittersweet Samba (Re-whipped)" needs to be the alternate version from the promotional CD.
     
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  14. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    I never can remember which is the 'wet' version of "What Now My Love", but suffice to say I prefer the album version with the echoed trumpet (which never seems to be offered on any of the hits compilations).
    As for "The Sea Is My Soil", I only play that one if I am listening to the WARM album specifically. I don't usually think of it on its own.
    As for "Jump Street", I like the Brighton Daze extended remix (6:29), as well as the original album version equally well.
    Not too wild about the whole RE-WHIPPED album as a whole. Not that I'm against remixes. I rather liked "Whipped Cream" and "Lollipops And Roses". But as for the rest of the album, it's just too weird for me.
     
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  15. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    Oh, and I actually prefer the 'Cool Summer' 12" single version of "Diamonds" from KEEP YOUR EYE ON ME.​
     
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  16. Yeah, it's the one with the reverbed trumpet. We've taken to calling the CD version dry, since there's no echo, and the old LP the wet version. That's also the place to find the shorter "Plucky" and the trombone part in "Brasilia". And since this is a different day, I might have picked "Brasilia"...
     
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  17. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    If Herb Had not participated on the Rewhipped CD i would not have added it to my collection but I judge it on its own merit. It is true it's not the colossus that the original was but yet for the most part in my opinion (Exception being Butterball which IN NO WAY RESEMBLES THE ORIGINAL.) It is a good cd and now that it is out of print I'm glad I have it and I also like the reworking of the song whipped cream
     
  18. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

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    The cover art is also easy on the eyes. :D
     
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  19. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    True that and the model is Bree Condon.
     
  20. For those who haven't seen the cover for the promotional advance CD for REWHIPPED, here it is:

    RewhippedPromoFront.jpg
    For some unknown reason, the version of "Bittersweet Samba" on the promo is different from the released version.
     
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  21. toeknee4bz

    toeknee4bz Active Member Thread Starter

    Oh, I judge it on its own merit as well. Same goes for Herb's covers of songs he recorded previously.
    But as for RE-WHIPPED, I just can't enjoy the songs themselves when they're so jumbled up and the mixes are so off the wall that you forget what song you're listening to. For instance, the beginning of "Tangerine" is just incredibly weird with the distortion and the muffled voice speaking "Why don't we start at the top?" over and over again, muffled and muted and sounding absolutely terrible. I mean, what's up with that? Granted, it finally does get into the song itself... but it's obviously more about showing off 'cool' sonic textures to the younger crowd than it is simply performing the songs with new arrangements.
    I hate to say it, but I kinda had the same complaint with a few tracks on the COLORS album back in 99. Don't get me wrong. There are some great tracks on it, but I don't tend to crank it up too much these days... definitely a mood album.
     
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  22. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I understand and I agree with your observations for the most part and as I said before there was enough good songs on Rewhipped to justify it's inclusion and staying in my collection and in fine chuck barris like tradition I used the Rewhipped Lollipops and Roses as the closing theme song for my radio show starting in 2007 and nowadays on occasion because I use a different one from week to week
     
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  23. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

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    Rewhipped was targeted to those younger fans, not us long-time listeners, so I can give it a pass. But that doesn't mean I spin it, either. :wink:

    My own opinion is that the art of remixing went way off the rails by the mid to late 80s. Janet Jackson's 12 inch singles for Rhythm Nation were probably the last new ones I really could get into. Only a small number of Bebel Gilberto's remixes do anything for me...there are some strange ones on her remix discs. And as much as I like Depeche Mode's albums, I can get into their single mixes for some tracks, but the remixes just leave me cold. (And there are very many.)

    The remixing started on dance singles (intended for clubs) in the mid 1970s. When the DJs started getting into it by adding parts and changing the bass line and tempo, that killed it for me. I'm a fan of the old school remixers like Tom Moulton, Bob Clearmountain, etc. Give me a nice, punchy 12 inch single remix with a hot mastering and I'm happy. Some of those were mastered loud. Not compressed, but cut at least 3dB higher than the album version. Some of them sound fantastic. (But good luck finding them today...most I find now are too worn to be of any use.)
     
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  24. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I agree Rudy I didn't get too much into remixes unless it was a favorite song or artist and these days I'm much more picky about my music and if a remix isn't equally as enjoyable or better than the original to me then I usually will say "No Go". Which is usually the norm but there are a few good ones and thankfully they are few but Good enough for me
     
  25. Rudy

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    Man, back in the day, I could count on the remixes being a must-have in addition to owning the album. In most cases, for favorite artists, they were a must-have purchase. I got more picky when the price went up, but often I would find used copies shortly after release.

    With Prince, if you were any sort of fan, buying the 12 inch singles, import 12 inchers or EPs, or even a couple of the 45s, was necessary to get the non-album tracks. I think I probably bought them all up through Lovesexy. The B-sides were compiled on his first 3-disc hits compilation, but they were all the 45 RPM B-sides, not the longer 12 inch versions. The first of any notoriety was the B-side "Gotta Stop (Messin' About)", which appeared on the extended 12 inch of "Let's Work." It took me months to find it, and I found the last new copy I'd ever seen anywhere.

    I usually picked up Herb's 12" singles if I came across them. I am glad I got all of them for the Keep Your Eye On Me album, even the promo 3-pack of singles in three colors (red, blue, clear).
     
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