Trying to get a "time allotted" estimate of venues, on how we can best utilize our time for events. Just off-hand, I would block out about 2 hrs for the CPAC at LB State. I was there in Nov and there are basically 3 cases in the lobby in which fans would most certainly want to take photos; Karen's drum kit with her "Lead Sister" shirt, Richard's electric piano with the Close To You lead sheet on it, and the "beat them off with a stick". The case with the Grammys, AMA Award, the Battle of the Bands trophy, One of Richard's Magic Lamp 45, Nixon autographed photo of White House appearance, etc. And the case with Karen's gold records. The receptionist did let us into the auditorium to look around and we took some photos in there. This is a great "photo op", but it is in the lobby of a building with an all glass foyer and glare killed my photos. Maybe later in the day would be good. As a sidelight there is a Japanese garden on the campus that would be great for a break or lunch. Everything was free of charge when we went, but with the CPAC they would need a "heads-up" of course to know we are coming. They were very accommodating to us when we visited. Maybe we could combine a Long Beach State visit to some Downey landmarks (such as the Newville Ave house) on the same bus tour.