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Official Review [Album]: "HORIZON" (SP-4530)

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Chris May, Jun 1, 2013.


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  1. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I always thought side B was dull in comparison with the A side, which sparkled due to the segues and the beautiful overture. Side B almost felt like “oh and here are the rest of the hits”.
  2. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    Maybe there was not any more space? Are you thinking of an ending overture.
  3. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I just meant that side A flows beautifully from one song to another and many of the tracks had been reworked (and in two cases, remixed), which makes for a “new” listening experience. Side B was just the remaining singles lined up in no particular order and in their original form.
  4. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Richard Carpenter, Billboard Magazine, November 1973:
    "How much of an impact we'll have, is hard to say.
    Acts have gone up and set records, and then all of a sudden the public has had enough of their sound.
    They never totally leave, but they don't enjoy being at the top. It's not the happiest thing to think about,
    but it's fact."
    "...I pay close attention to what our public seems to like..."

  5. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    Record Mirror (UK)
    This article speaks of their latest single, Please Mr. Postman.
    Feb 22, 1975

  6. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Karen drums on.....
    1974 Hi-Crown Chocolate Commercial Jingle
    1974/1975 Please Mr. Postman , Happy.

    In the same 1970's period, Karen drums on:
    Good Friends Are For Keeps Commercial (1975)
    The Suntory Pop Commercial Jingles (1977).

    By the way, the best way to get a feel for Karen's drumming is the 4-cd set,
    From The Top ,
    Karen is well-documented as a drummer (about 50% of the represented songs), on this compilation.
  7. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Horizon.....marks the final utilization of the concept of...."bookending,"
    (1) Offering...opens and closes with... Invocation/Benediction
    (2) A Song For You.... closes with... 'Song For You'
    (3) Now & Then closes with... 'Yesterday Once More'
    (4) Horizon opens and closes with.... Aurora/Eventide....

    Neither Hush,Passage nor Made In America continues that 'bookending' trend.
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  8. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    Ah, but it was used on several compilations, too.
    SINGLES 1969-1973...opens with a "Close To You" intro and closes with..."Close To You"
    SINGLES 1969-1981...opens with "For All We Know" and closes with..."For All We Know (reprise)"

    and I might argue that the trend sort-of DID continue A KIND OF HUSH:
    A KIND OF HUSH...opens with "There's A Kind Of Hush" and closes with the other oldie..."Breaking Up Is Hard To Do"
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  9. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^Yes, I had thought of those inclusions (though, not Hush)
    but, decided against including Compilation albums, preferring original LP's....:)
  10. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Even the Christmas albums are bookended with religious songs: CP has ‘O Come, O Come Emmanuel/Ave Maria”, while AOFC has ‘Midnight Clear”/I Heard The Bells” and even CPSE has “Midnight Clear/Silent Night”.
  11. Every good “book” must come to an end!
  12. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    I always felt that "Voice Of The Heart" had a hopeful moving bookend to that album. I find it even more compelling than some of these others mentioned above. Look To Your Dreams is almost like a send off from Karen...leaving you with hope (not despair) for me Karen seems to say that you can make it even when things are at their worse...."and tomorrow may be... better for you and me"
  13. Especially with the addition of Richard's piano "playoff"...
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  14. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    A&M Compendium interview, March 1975,
    Karen Carpenter (regards Horizon): "We're into using different mikes for backgrounds, different mikes for leads."
    "I didn't get into music until I was 16."
    "We never take it for granted that anything will make it."
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  15. I was looking at the Billboard magazine archives online. I may be mistaken, but "Only Yesterday" was already descending the HOT 100 (#55, down from #44) in the very same issue that had the elaborate fold-out cover ad for their new album, Horizon. In retrospect, the album charted quite well considering it had only "Solitaire" to promote it. (I had always thought "Only Yesterday" was still riding high when the album came out.)
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  16. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    Little could he know that “Horizon” would be the end of the days of salad.

  17. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    ^^ "just think in 3 short years I'll be 30, finished, ready for the scrapheap." - 27 year old Richard Carpenter bantering with Bob Hope on The Bob Hope Special, Nov 13, 1973. Prophetic?
  18. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    has been on my turntable this morning.
    Then....I realize....release date June 6, 1975....
    In any event,
    Still, my favorite Carpenters' album.
    Utterly Beautiful.
  19. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    In terms of his career as a recording artist, it sort of came true just ten years later.
  20. David A

    David A Well-Known Member

  21. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Well, here I am listening to this Vinyl LP.....again.
    And, it strikes me anew:
    The three Singles from this album are fantastic pieces of pop music,
    Please Mr. Postman...Only Yesterday...Solitaire.
    The first is a great example of taking a familiar hit and making it their own,
    the second is a fantastic mixture of both slow and medium tempo pop,
    the last released builds upon the first two, but with a much slower pace.
    And, the flip/B-sides of these A-side singles are good ones, too !

    Finally: the Album.
    Horizon, remains my favorite.
    As much as I love LP A Song For You and Passage (one before, one after 1975),
    here we have an album whose artwork and layout are as great as the music inside.
    And, Jim Gordon's drumming fascinates me (too bad about his demons).
    Although, Karen's Postman drumming is fascinating by itself (which also is a highlight
    of both sides of this particular single--Karen drums on both).

    The album deserved a much higher USA chart presence, I'll never understand its missing the Top Five.
    Also, Only Yesterday (600,000 copies sold) and Solitaire (#17) should have done much better.
  22. I found a sealed copy of the (1975 original) LP this week and, though I have several copies already, simply couldn't leave the store without it! :wink:
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  23. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    You might have a problem, Jared... :D

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  24. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    Way to go Jared, you passed your confirmation...you are officially a member of the club!!
    I bet you are "Happy" :phones:
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  25. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Rather surprised to see that the outstanding song,
    (I'm Caught Between) Goodbye And I Love You
    is anthologized in rather few instances.
    USA releases seem to be confined to the original Horizon
    and the PBS-Complete-Singles (it being the flip side of There's A Kind Of Hush).
    The song is better represented for Japanese market (5X), then, once in UK.

    But, I wonder:
    in 1976 , being on the B-Side of 45-Single Hush,
    how many who purchased that single, flipped it over and played
    such a fantastic song ?

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