song4u
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That was the meaning I got too.I was of the understanding that this was more so to piss Richard off when they'd had a disagreement as opposed to Karen trying to exercise her creative independence.
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That was the meaning I got too.I was of the understanding that this was more so to piss Richard off when they'd had a disagreement as opposed to Karen trying to exercise her creative independence.
Do you think the other live tapes Richard had in his possession still exist or did they burn up in the fire as well?....and Chris, if you get another interview with Richard, please ask him. Thanks.
Wow. A live collection for the 50th Anniversary would be great ... But I want it now!To my knowledge Richard has all of the live stuff. It was studio multi-tracks that were temporarily moved to LA and stored there that were subsequently destroyed.
SO funny you mention this. I was going to also remark on the drumming. I HATE the live drums on much of their stuff (save for Karen's work of course). Those drum fills and even the timbre and tone was almost bombastic and downright ridiculous. They're over-played and just cheesy, which is why the above remarks never, ever made any sense to me! Did I miss something?
Well, it's live. You want to make an impression! It's a moment in time face to face. That's how you generate excitement. You dig in, you play harder. A lot of live playing does not involve subtlety, for better or worse. Your choice. If you're playing in the moment, you can't worry about the listeners 30 years later.I'm glad you all brought this up because I too thought Cubby went over the top on drumming, maybe Richard was looking for a more rock sound? If you listen and watch Karen's drumming in the yearly years before Cubby came on board, it was just the right amount of drum sound not too soft and not too loud. The tonight show is a perfect example of that especially with the medley ending. I guess I can understand it in the live shows because you want to reach that sound to the entire audience (even the people in the back and up in the balcony) but when listening to live material on CD's were all on the front row and it's a bit too powerful at times.
It is what it is.
Yet we live in hope! ! And wonder!Right, all we can do now is just talk about it which is what this forum is all about, if we can't talk about...might as well close down the forums, huh? ...there's no changing nothing.
Richard Carpenter:
"Not many live shows were recorded, only two: 'Live in Japan' (1974)
and 'Live at the Palladium' (1976). Both have been released on CD,
but the former will probably be easier to obtain.
Japan is the source to look for both .
These were never released in the U.S.
at my request,
as I'm just not much on live albums by anybody."
As Coleman recounts (from Doug Strawn, page 119):
"...she'd persist on doing (singing) it her way, and Richard would be back stage wailing. Toward the end of Rainy Days she'd take her pause to the maximum, and they'd get into a shouting match."