Is this 'hatred' from the older generations who hated them back in their heyday though or from younger listeners too? I can understand there are still some older people who will never accept their music (and some of these are still in a position of influence in terms of still being music critics and compiling playlists at radio stations) and thus wouldn't make any effort to play them or give them good coverage, but I'd be surprised if this continues forever.Yes. Thank you for saving me from typing that all out again.
Remember, radio is a business. They make their money by reaching the largest audience. If the music they play causes people to tune out - and there's a whole lot of people out there who HATE Carpenters - not just dislike - genuine HATRED. Playing a Carpenters record will cause tune-out. The more that tune-out, the lower the ratings, and the lower the revenue at the station.
Get used to it. Carpenters only test well at Christmas.
I call BS on this, which is one of those canards that no one stops to question. What testing? By whom? What audiences? Where? No, it is not because their beautiful music is "poison" to audiences, but because of their conservative, white suburban image is scorned by the leftist element that controls all aspects of entertainment media, including radio play. (Note that Carpenters are very popular measured by views on YouTube, even though many of the videos are quite old and sometimes fuzzy). The very same element that excludes the leading pop/soft rock group of the 70's even from consideration for the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And none of this business that they're not rock and roll. The RRHOF is full of non-rock performers, ranging from the likes of Linda Rondstadt and James Taylor (who I agree deserve to be in there anyway) to the so-called rappers, which do not do rock and roll but a completely different genre.What Harry said is true. They don’t test well with the listening audience, so only at Christmas time. It totally stinks too. Even satellite or cable 70’s only play about the same 4 cuts. It drives me crazy, so I rarely listen to any radio. Thanks God I have over 100 Carpenters CDs I’ve purchased or made on my computer, and can play them all I want. Also on my iPhone and can use Bluetooth if need be. All hit radio my ^+%.
I remember back in the 90’s the Top 2 Carpenters Christmas songs that I would hear on the radio as a kid were “Sleigh Ride” And “The Christmas Song”. And “Time-Life” even licensed “The Christmas Song” for inclusion in their “Treasury Of Christmas” album (which used the single version and was the first digital appearance of the 45 mix on CD) and every year Time-Life would play a snippet of the song during the commercial.That’s so true. If I talk about Carpenters to almost anyone under 50 they have never heard of them or are familiar with Carpenters songs. The exception is at Christmas time when about 5 cuts from Christmas Portrait get played. One thing I noticed last year is that Merry Christmas Darling has taken a back seat to Sleigh Ride/Sleep Well and Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas on local all Christmas format stations here. Another thorn in my side. I remember in college all my friends, about 8 of us, would pile into the car and we go look at the Christmas lights, and turn the AM dial back and forth to see who was playing MCD while we were driving around for a couple of hours. It was huge back when it was the only Christmas song Carpenters had at the time. I still love hearing anything by them on the airwaves, no matter what it is. That means others are hearing them too.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find the comments. Can you share them? Thanks!Read the comments underneath this picture. The anecdote about Joe Esposito’s role in Karen’s solo album is fascinating.
Hint: Click “view previous replies” after the very first comment to find the first, most interesting anecdote. The poster alleges to have lived down the street from Karen and knows what he does because he spoke to John Robinson, who he correctly identifies as a drummer on her solo album.
“He [Joe Esposito] was part of Jerry Weintraub’s management team. Joined after Elvis died. He was sort of the new Sherwin Bash, I guess you could say. Weintraub’s company handled many people so he would put people like Joe to work as full time hands-on liaisons. He was with the Carpenters starting in ‘78 and spent some time with Karen in NY during her solo recording sessions. It’s unclear how much time he was there. He was more of a sort of “handler” there to periodically check on her and basically do all he could to try to stop her demons from consuming her. Weintraub wanted her to get this solo thing out of her system and back to making records with Richard as usual. Joe was there to help facilitate that process. [...] I grew up down the street from Karen Carpenter. My earliest childhood memory is having met her. She has inspired me to be a musician and I know most publicly available things about her and some private things that I keep to myself [...] I always found the Elvis/KC connection through Joe Esposito to be an interesting coincidence so I learned everything I could about that and got some info about her solo sessions from one of the drummers on those sessions (John Robinson).Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find the comments. Can you share them? Thanks!