Brasil '66 gets the Millenium Collection treatment

Will you buy Sergio's new collection?

  • Yes, I buy just about everything Sergio

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Yes, I'm collecting the Millenium series

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Maybe, if I like the track list

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • No, I already have enough Sergio collections

    Votes: 17 73.9%

  • Total voters
    23

Mike Blakesley

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Amazon.com lists a Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 entry in their Millenium Series. It will be out on May 1. No track list yet, but there IS this blurb about the packaging:

The 20th Century Masters series is the best-selling single-artist line in music history and is being re-released by Universal Music Enterprises (UMe) in its ground-breaking, environmentally-friendly packaging format. A first for the music industry, the standard package (both sleeve and tray) will be completely paper-recyclable, continuing the company's long-standing commitment to being "green."

To further reduce the amount of paper in the Eco-Pack, the CD booklet will no longer be offered. Official liner notes are easily accessible on the Internet at http://www.ilovethatsong.com/green.

UMe is the first North American music company to replace the traditional jewel case with recycled paperboard sleeves and the plastic tray with trays made from PaperFoam®, a new packaging technology from Shorewood Packaging, a business of International Paper, that is paper-recyclable and biodegradable. Shorewood Packaging is the first North American packaging supplier to produce disc trays from PaperFoam®.


....So in other words, the package will be a cheap-looking piece of crud. But Sergio will be out front on some displays again, so that's cool. (Can a 2-disk GOLD album be far behind?)
 

Harry

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These paperboard packages really look crappy. I've seen a number of them at WalMart, and they retail there for about $7.50, so it's not like this package will be very expensive, and to some not very necessary.

I predict a track list that pretty well mirrors the old GREATEST HITS disc.

Edited to add:

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Track list (according to CD Universe):

1. Mas Que Nada
2. Constant Rain (Chove Chuva)
3. For Me
4. Night & Day
5. Look Of Love, The
6. Fool On The Hill, The
7. Scarborough Fair
8. Pretty World
9. With A Little Help From My Friends
10. Berimbau
11. Like A Lover


Harry
 

Mike Blakesley

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I figured the track list had to be around somewhere, but didn't have time to look far. Thanks, Harry.

Actually this is not a bad set for the casual listener that might prefer English lyrics to the Portuguese-language songs. They probably included the original "Berimbau" here due to its updated version appearing on the TIMELESS album.
 

Mike

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Eleven tracks seems a little on the skimpy side to me.

“Classic Sergio Mendes, The Universal Masters Collection” has 15 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes Gold” has 14 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes A&M Gold Series” 19 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes & Brasil ’66, The Very Best Of” 16 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes & Brasil ’66-’86, A&M 25th Annivarsary” 17 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes and Brasil ’66 Foursider” 21 tracks.
"Sergio Mendes, The Swinger From Rio Favourites” 24 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes Songs Selected by Shinichi Osawa” 26 tracks.
“Sergio Mendes & Brasil ’66 Greatest Hits” 12 tracks.

Man! Sergio sure has a lot of compilations… and that list isn’t even complete!

Regards,
Mike
 

Dave

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So far the track-list seems more comparable to A&M's Greatest Hits and I'm suprised more people didn't, so far, go by the song-set in their votes...

Which is what I voted on... This set does seem geared towards the Millenium 20th Century Masters collectors than any true Sergio fans...

And I wonder why you don't see the "Original Brasil '66" photo you saw on the cover of A&M's Greatest Hits set...:cool:



Dave
 

Mike Blakesley

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Eleven tracks seems a little on the skimpy side to me.
That's because it's a budget release. All the other compilations are "full price" releases (or were, when they came out.)

This is in line with the other Millenium Collection song lineups...they're just meant to give a sample of the artist.

In a way this is actually a better sampling of the REAL Brasil '66 than the original GREATEST HITS was. That album, while great, only had one Portuguese language tune ("Mas Que Nada") where this one has the language in three songs, if you count "Chove Chuva."

I'll bet there is a photo of the whole band in the online "liner notes."
 

alpertfan

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The 20TH CENTURY MASTERS discs have 10 or 11 songs on them. I've seen lots of them, and own one (Chuck Berry). If you want a condensed "greatest hits" package, then it would work, but, depending on the artist/band, and the number of actual "greatest hits" they had, it could be a bit limited, or skimpy, as Mike put it. Personally, I don't think these 20th CENTURY MASTERS CDs do a lot of these artists justice.
 

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Back in Japan (I'm once again on my way there) I've seen this "eco-packaging" at the Navy Exchange (the PX). Fortunatley the tiltles I was interested in were in the bins in both jewel cases and this new "environmentally friendly" packaging.

My take? The packaging looks flimsy and the the fact that the inlay tray is made of a paper product that is entirely too soft tells me that after removing and returning your CD about a dozen times the "spindle" (if you can call it that) will no longer snugly hold your CD. Not to mention that the CD booklet issue will raise the ire of any truly appreciative music fan.

But this raises an entirely new question... If you're going to keep your CD why does the packaging have to be "eco-friendly"???? The answer lies with today's youth...

Much as the Woodstock generation is responsible for today's social ills, immorality and lack of patriotism, today's youth are sowing the seeds of a new dark ages with their "global warming" fiction and disposable lifestyle. They piss and moan that we're killing the planet with plastic. Yet at the same time they walk out of their local record shop, ripping the wrapper off their CD, then opening the case, puilling out the disc and tossing the jewel case, bookelt and everything else into the trash, only to stuff the silver disc into a blank slot in their deluxe padded 320CD capacity Disc Wallet.

I'm not sure why they do this. In teh days of vinyl I NEVER saw anyone walk out with a record and toss the sjacket, inner sleeve, etc into the trash just to have an unprotected slab of vinyl to deal with. To furhter add to the confusion most modern CDs don't even have the artist or title on the disc itself, but rather some inane artwork. So how do they een know what the disc is after they tire of hearing it repeatedly when it's new?

Now look... you went and got me started (again)... :|

--Mr Bill
just sick of today's youth and their hip hop bland pop tattoos and stupid clothes... good thing I'm not in college!
 

Harry

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Mr Bill said:
To furhter add to the confusion most modern CDs don't even have the artist or title on the disc itself, but rather some inane artwork. So how do they een know what the disc is after they tire of hearing it repeatedly when it's new?

--Mr Bill

With the crap they're buying, it doesn't matter what's on the disc. It all sounds the same anyway!

Harry
...in a curmudgeonly mode, online...
 

Mike Blakesley

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The first disk I got with nothing but "artwork" on it was Pink Floyd's THE DIVISION BELL. (A fine album, by the way.) But the CD has nothing but a colorful pattern on it....no song titles, band name, album title or anything. If you squint you can see the catalog number, that's about it. So this is not a new trend.

I guess most Pink Floyd album covers even in the LP days didn't have any text on the front cover, so they were really ahead of their time.
 

Trevor

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I think an option for the poll should have been:
"Depends on the cover pic"

Yeah, it looks like someone read Billboard and decided from that.

It's cool that he made it to Millenium. I wonder if they will follow up with a "Sergio Mendes" and include other work.
 

Mike Blakesley

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I have my doubts about that. Outside of the Brasil '66 work, he only had one big hit on A&M (Never Gonna Let You Go). Although I'd sure like to see the song "Real Life" (from CONFETTI) make it onto some collection...I never got that CD during its brief life and that's my favorite Joe Pizzulo-sung song.
 

alpertfan

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The only thing I toss is the wrapper. Who saves a wrapper? :rolleyes: I don't even own a CD wallet. I guess the people of my generation feel that the disc will still be preserved as it is, while those of us with brains know that inserting it into something like a CD wallet or just plain leaving it out somewhere will scratch and/or crack the disc, thus making it unplayable. :shrug: And Harry, you're right. It's all the same crap.
 

Harry

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Actually, the track list is pretty similar to the old GREATEST HITS (unique tracks in bold):

MILLENNIUM:
1. Mas Que Nada
2. Constant Rain (Chove Chuva)
3. For Me
4. Night & Day
5. Look Of Love, The
6. Fool On The Hill, The
7. Scarborough Fair
8. Pretty World
9. With A Little Help From My Friends
10. Berimbau
11. Like A Lover

GREATEST HITS:
1. Mais Que Nada (Ma-sh Kay Nada)
2. Scarborough Fair
3. With A Little Help From My Friends
4. Like A Lover
5. Look Of Love, The - (from "Casino Royale")
6. Night And Day
7. Fool On The Hill
8. Goin' Out Of My Head
9. Look Around
10. So Many Stars
11. Day Tripper
12. Pretty World

So you'd get one more track on GREATEST HITS, an LP-era compilation, than you'd get on the new 20th Century Masters MILLENNIUM COLLECTION.

Harry
 

Mike Blakesley

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MILLENIUM is more evenly balanced as far as the number of songs from each album.

Herb Alpert Presents: Millenium has 2 songs, Greatest Hits has 3
Equinox: Millenium 3, GH 1
Look Around: Millenium 3, GH 5
Fool on the Hill: Both albums have 2 songs
Crystal Illusions: Both have 1 song

...so where GH really favors the LOOK AROUND album, the new collection spreads things out a bit more.

I do feel sorry for somebody who buys a collection like one of these and stops there. They are really missing out a lot of good stuff!
 

Harry

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While there's hardly a bad track on either of these, I personally might favor the Millennium song selection. "For Me" and "Constant Rain (Chove Chuva)" are big personal favorites.

And let's also not forget that GREATEST HITS was put together from an old LP master, complete with the old HAECO-CSG processing. I'm assuming, and hoping that the Millennium Collection will leave that far behind.

Harry
 

Mike Blakesley

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With the exception of "Look Around," the tunes they deleted from the GH lineup are ones I like, but don't consider top-10 favorites, so yeah, given the limited number of tracks, the MILLENIUM lineup is pretty good.

Still, I wish they'd added one more song to MILLENIUM - "Chelsea Morning." That way they'd really cover the Brasil '66 gamut and that song would fit nicely with the earlier albums' style.
 

Trevor

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It looks like they went straight from the Hot 100 Billboard Chart:

1966 - Mas Que Nada - #47
1966 - Constant Rain (Chove Chuva) - #71
1967 - For Me - #98
1967 - Night And Day - #82
1968 - The Look of Love - #4
1968 - The Fool On The Hill - #6
1968 - Scarborough Fair - #16
1969 - Pretty World - #62
1969 - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay - #66
1969 - Wichita Lineman - #95

Versus Millenium:

1. Mas Que Nada
2. Constant Rain (Chove Chuva)
3. For Me
4. Night & Day
5. Look Of Love, The
6. Fool On The Hill, The
7. Scarborough Fair
8. Pretty World
9. With A Little Help From My Friends (on 45 with Look Around, but didn’t chart)
10. Berimbau (B side of Constant Rain)
11. Like A Lover (B side of Look of Love)

To me, it looks like nothing has been brought into the colaboration.
Although, it is an interesting look at Sergio's Charting in the US.


And to hear the forum's comments on Sergio's greatest hits according to Billboard. (except Dock of the bay and Wichita lineman)
 

Mr Bill

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alpertfan said:
The only thing I toss is the wrapper. Who saves a wrapper? :rolleyes:

I toss the wrapper, too... B ut I do save the sticker on the front that has things like "Contains the hit..." and such. I have an extensive collection of those! One day I'll scan 'em and make a gallery here...

--Mr Bill
 

Mike Blakesley

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We just got this disk in. The sound quality is fine, as expected.

Packaging spoilers here! If you'd rather be surprised, stop reading.



Aside from the music, the best thing about the whole package is the back cover photo. It's a color picture of the FOOL/CRYSTAL/YE-ME-LE era band relaxing in patio furniture. I've never seen this pic before although it may have turned up other places.

The inner tray isn't as bad as I was expecting, but it is kind of cheezy looking and the lack of ANY liner notes at all is a downer. (They say you can access them and song info at a website, www.ilovethatsong.com/green.) I looked at the site; the info for this album is not there yet. however there is a Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 page which shows the various A&M compilations of the group that are in print on Universal, and there is an "artist website" link to our very own brasil66.com! There is also another good color picture of the group, different than the one on the CD cover.

I'm sure the liner notes will turn up on the site soon, but be aware that you have to sign up (translated: put your name on a mailing list) to access them.
 

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Trevor said:
It looks like they went straight from the Hot 100 Billboard Chart:

Interesting how the first eight tracks are an EXACT match, in order.
 

Mike Blakesley

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I'm amazed that "Night and Day" didn't chart higher than 82. I think that's a great single. If they'd used it as the first single off EQUINOX then maybe things would've been different.

By the way...our store paid $5.99 for this CD, so if Wal-Mart is selling them for $7.50 they're really making pretty good $ on them. They probably get them for much less than we do. I hate Wal-Mart.
 

Captaindave

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There is nothing here I do not already have, so I do not expect to buy this CD.

I do agree with the comment in the original post that maybe this music might appear on some displays. It's always nice to see some decent alternatives to the standard fare that is usually found.
 

Harry

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I found it today at Best Buy. They had a rack of Millennium Collection discs with a $7.99 pricetag on them. But first I went to the Sergio Mendes section and found it there. When I took it up to pay for it, it rang up as $9.99. Sure enough, there was no $7.99 sticker on THIS particular disc. I decided to try a bit of logical argument that all of the other discs in the series were $7.99 so this one should be too. Utlimately, she geve me the $7.99 price.

I gave a quick listen in the car and possibly I'll have more to say about that later.

Harry
 

Mike Blakesley

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Consider yourself lucky that you got a Best Buy clerk who actually took the initiative to make you happy....from what I hear about that place, usually they'd just shrug and give you a "that's what the computer says, take it or leave it."
 
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