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Carpenters "Collected" Vinyl Release

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by New Horizons., Sep 9, 2017.

  1. I have quite a few colored vinyl LP's from authorized to bootlegs. I once had a Nirvana Unplugged LP and it was pure white, but this Carpenters' LP might not be perfect, especially when they're getting ready to start with the black vinyl editions. I'll let you know when mine arrives
  2. ars nova

    ars nova Active Member

    I am embarrassed to admit I have purchased bootlegs. I had the KAREN CARPENTER album on a cassette with other material that essentially was AS TIME GOES BY, during the 80's. I tossed that tape as soon as ATGB was released. I let very few people hear the tape and never duped it; not duping it and eventually tossing the tape does not justify my actions. the $ 20 I paid that young entrepreneur did not compensate Richard carpenter or the Karen carpenter estate.

    I wish the carpenter family would license authentic merchandise so that the fans have access and tight quality control could be maintained and proper licensing fees could be collected. it would be like " dad " carpenter overseeing the fan club. I get angry when I see all the t-shirts, keychains, etc... on ebay. I'm sure it is to expected, but I doubt that I could be as silent as mister carpenter, seeing my image and my work being sold against my wishes.

    perhaps some able bodied entrepreneur from this site would like to take a swing with the family? I can tell you I have two kidneys and I will gladly sell one to acquire one of the plexiglass piano shaped music boxes the Japanese fanclub offered. if I am able to sell a graft of my liver, I perhaps could purchase the full size MADE IN AMERICA artwork.
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  3. Now that’s dedication and going that extra mile!, I wonder what I can live without!. But then again possibly not!.
  4. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    I think mine got lost...I'm losing hope :sad:
  5. Chris May

    Chris May Resident 'Carpenterologist' Moderator

    Who did you order through?
  6. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Active Member

    Speaking of a "rush job" (and slightly off topic), have you had a chance to ask Richard yet about the B'Wana She No Home mono-stereo discussion from earlier this year?
  7. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    Just for reference (although not the exact photo as Richard looks slightly different) this looks like a promo photo currently being sold on e bay. It's listed as a 8x10 and not only is the photo clearer it probably represents colors the way they were, for instance Karen's boots and shirt. I believe this photo or something similar was used on one of the many music book for piano as well.

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  8. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    Mine came yesterday. Number 311. $24.98. Sealed for posterity. There are those who understand this collecting of art.

  9. That picture looks a lot better resolution wise to me?, shame they couldn’t have used that one on the front cover!.
  11. I just received my copy, #1033. The vinyl is pure white, no grey or black streaks. Cover nice & laminated but photo isn't very clear. I think they may have enlarged the CD cover instead of starting with a fresh photo. Nice but the cover photo's blurriness takes away from the quality that MUSIC ON VINYL usually uses. I have the sound tracks from "St Vincent" & "The Phantom Of The Opera" (2006) that are on this label and their covers look amazing....
  12. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    Actually, the machines are "fully cleaned" each time a record leaves the press--all of the vinyl of the record is removed, obviously, or the records would be pitted and unplayable.

    Vinyl, before it is melted, is received as small pellets that are put into a hopper, then fed to the presses. If the colored vinyl was received with a few stray pellets of a different color, that would account for any streakage. It is also possible a hopper was not completely free of other colored pellets. (I can imagine that with static electricity, it might be tough to get out every last stray pellet!)

    Either way, playback is not affected. And white would be the hardest "color" to get cleanly out of the press. (For the same reasons I am not allowed to wear white shirts while eating Italian food. :D )

    MOV does a lot of colored vinyl, and it is not uncommon for some artists to request "marbled" vinyl where there is a mix of different colored pellets. And those colors can be transparent or opaque. This is one they did for a group called Trivium:


    True, they are at the mercy of what they are sent. And even so, they would really have no idea that there were even a lot of remixes available, unless someone were to stumble across our site here to learn about them. That is actually a common problem that any reissue label deals with, especially ones that request "original masters" and receives tapes that aren't actually the correct masters they were looking for. Getting the right versions requires a lot of digging in some cases.

    Worst case? They master it from a CD...and that would really be wrong. Yet even there, the tracks from the CD should sound pretty much tonally identical to the vinyl (not duller, not brighter, etc.).
  13. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    I also received my copy in the mail today. I've taken a few pics upon open and have only been able to clean record 1 twice on my record doctor machine and have listened to side 1 for review. There is no doubt that this is the remastered classics (original album mix) I won't do a full on compare against everything, however I did compare the first couple of tracks to my Ultimate Collection (NL) and it's the exact same sound meaning these are the original album mixes.

    Just a couple of things to clarify. Wayne's post on page 4 had me a bit confused when he talked about the sticker on the back being removable, I read it that he was talking about the limited ed numbering being removable with a sticker but clearly I read his post wrong. The only sticker on the back mine came with was the Collected Series Music On Vinyl that holds the flap down. (see my pic below)

    The cover photo is like what everyone has mentioned it's pretty bad, I sure would like to send an email to the artwork designer to find out what is the story on this LP cover photo. We know a clearer photo of this exists so why did they use this? It's not that it's just blurry but the colors are all wrong and way over saturated. The inside booklet shows the Artwork: Valentin Ocheda and below that says Vinyl Artwork: Music On Vinyl B.V. and Fonts+Files. The remainder of the booklet is top notch, inside photos are clear in fact the booklet cover of Karen with her arm on Richard's shoulder is so clear it pops off the page, I swear this color shot is almost photo gallery condition for framing.

    This is my first white vinyl ever and it's quite remarkable, mine is very white, almost like a taffy white, is it edible? Seriously, it looks amazing and I don't see any traces of any other coloring, it's pretty uniform white. I will say that the first thing I noticed is that it's nearly impossible to see the break marks between tracks. When I was comparing the first couple tracks and starting and stopping it was impossible for me to see the line breaks and wear to drop the needle. But it looks so cool I don't care. I will say the best investment I made on this Technics turntable was buying an Ortofon 320 cartridge.

    So apart from the cover photo, I'm really happy with this purchase and if your use to how the remastered classics sounds with the original album mixes than you won't be let down. To me the sonics sound just about the same as the NL CD I mentioned earlier, my bets are still that this was a digital transfer. I know everyone has their own opinion of what sounds good to you but after listening to side 1 it's actually pretty good for being the original mixes. The only noticeable noise was the first track Ticket, I might need to go back and clean that a bit more to see if there is residue because the rest of side 1 sounds pretty quite. In fact on some of the breaks like the ending of Close To You where it's silent and they come back in again it's super quite and during Bless the Beasts it was very quite. I think that if your use to hearing the original 70's vinyls with the original album mixes than you will like this set but to me the remastered classics series on CD never seemed to capture the crispness or clarity in Karen's vocals and instruments compared to the original vinyl albums from the 70's. However this varies for me between songs and albums meaning some are better than others when comparing the 2 (original 70's vinyl to the remastered classics CD mastering)

    So if I hear anything else worth mentioning I'll update this thread but overall I'm very happy to add this to my collection and would recommend to anyone who wants to hear the original mixes and own the very cool white vinyl.
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  14. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    I'm not crazy about the inside photo they used for Richard but Karen's solo (apart from the wrong colors and tint) is very nice.
    All I keep saying is WOW Karen's solo picture is the whole size of the album cover, is that cool or what? I love it!! For me worth the price of this collection.
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2017
  15. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    2 more pics of the vinyl just because it's soooo cool, I love it...feels like Christmas, might be the whitest I'll see in Florida this Christmas. :)
    The white vinyl has incredible sheen as well.

  16. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing, sir :)
  17. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    The Remastered Classics series is all I will listen to (other than original vinyl), so that's a win/win in my book. :wink: And yes, this would be a digital transfer. I highly doubt UMG would send the original analog masters over to Holland for a project like this one. (It is also a logistical problem--if someone wanted to cut this collection from original tapes, they would have to take a razor blade to all of the original album reels to pull out the tracks they wanted to use, assemble them in sequence, cut the lacquers, then re-assemble the tracks back into the album reels...and trust me, the label would never allow this!)
  18. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    So I should be heading to bed but I cleaned side 2 twice with the doctor machine and I'm a bit more impressed with the sound, side 2 is pretty quite. I'm listening with my Sony MDR-V6 and this white vinyl sounds really good to me. I want to stress again that if your use to hearing all the remixing (which I am too) these original album mixes are going to sound different. For me it does take me back to the 70's when listening to this set it's all before Richard remixed so much and all the reverb/echo came to be....
  19. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    Do you have any original vinyl to compare a few of these tracks to? That might tip the scales for me, if I decide to pick this up. If it sounds reasonably close enough to the originals, this would be a fun set to have. The A Song For You album would probably be a good benchmark for that.
  20. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Active Member

    Actually, the single biggest error was including “Karen’s Theme”. “Time” or “When Time Was All We Had” would’ve been better choices.
  21. Rick, I have a copy of this photo from the fan club, and Karen's sweater, the collar on Rich's shirt and pants look like a light cream color....the "Collected" cover photos makes them all look grey, even the boxes they're sitting on look grey, not a great copy of the photo, I believe they just enlarged the CD cover
  22. My copy arrived today. #1033. Even though the cover photo is a bit blurry, I am happy to have this collection. Especially because of the 2 tracks that have never been released on vinyl. I am still hoping to see Karen's solo LP get a vinyl release
  23. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    Yes I have all the original vinyl some titles even in multiples. I'll compare some of the tracks soon.
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  24. Song4uman

    Song4uman Active Member

    I did a comparison earlier in this thread of side 1.

    I have listened to all four sides. I did adjust the bass on my receiver down a little and I enjoyed the albums. Live the white vinyl. Glad I bought.
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