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Carpenters featured in new series (ABC) Big Sky teaser.

Sabar

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It's not an either/or choice, but I think the use of the Carpenters' music in this way will have a greater impact on expanding their legacy than whether or not they get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame . Of course, whether this show contributes to raising the Carpenters' profile to a new generation will depend on how their music is used in the show, and whether the show is any good or not.
 

goodjeans

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It's not an either/or choice, but I think the use of the Carpenters' music in this way will have a greater impact on expanding their legacy than whether or not they get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame . Of course, whether this show contributes to raising the Carpenters' profile to a new generation will depend on how their music is used in the show, and whether the show is any good or not.
I hope that it hits the charts and we see a #1 ITunes placement 37 years after the original release.
 

Harry

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"Top Of The World" is used in that promo, but there's no indication that it would be included in the TV show itself, and I'd guess it likely won't.

First, TV themes went the way of the dinosaur, particularly on network TV. You're lucky if you get a title screen, let alone any music backing it.

Second, the show has not been officially scheduled - it has no start date, probably largely because of the filming restrictions due to the pandemic.

Third, the show is scheduled in the Tuesday 10 PM slot and will be opposite FBI: MOST WANTED on CBS, another crime procedural, this one already established and it follows the original FBI, both Dick Wolf shows that do well on CBS. Scheduling doesn't factor as much as it used to due to DVRs and streaming, but it IS still a factor with a large percentage of older viewers - the ones who watch network TV.

It would be great if the song WERE used on the show, but let's hold off on our excitement until we see what the reality is.
 

Sabar

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"Top Of The World" is used in that promo, but there's no indication that it would be included in the TV show itself, and I'd guess it likely won't.

First, TV themes went the way of the dinosaur, particularly on network TV. You're lucky if you get a title screen, let alone any music backing it.

Second, the show has not been officially scheduled - it has no start date, probably largely because of the filming restrictions due to the pandemic.

Third, the show is scheduled in the Tuesday 10 PM slot and will be opposite FBI: MOST WANTED on CBS, another crime procedural, this one already established and it follows the original FBI, both Dick Wolf shows that do well on CBS. Scheduling doesn't factor as much as it used to due to DVRs and streaming, but it IS still a factor with a large percentage of older viewers - the ones who watch network TV.

It would be great if the song WERE used on the show, but let's hold off on our excitement until we see what the reality is.
Thank you for doing the research. I know virtually nothing about the television industry, so your comments were helpful.
 
I just think it was nice to randomly and unexpectedly hear it on network TV. I guess we can be excited about that. Whether it appears on the series next year when it premieres is irrelevant right now as is whether or not the show is successful. I think the point is it’s ok just to be happy that we are hearing them on mainstream TV for a few moments everytime they run the promo.
 

Harry

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I wasn't attempting to squelch enthusiasm, but just to temper things with a little reality.

I'd like nothing better than to have Carpenters music being used in a popular entertainment.
 

GDB2LV

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The snippet is small and only a couple of seconds of vocal. I think there is some kind of legal rule that royalties have to be paid to ASCAP or BMI if they use more than a certain amount of any song on air. They mention it sometimes on the Today Show and others, playing or even just singing a lyric will cost the show or network money. That includes a promo, Talk Show or news show. Any format for a profit. Maybe Chris May would be better information . Just like radio stations have to pay royalties for the music they play. Anyway, I think that’s why it quickly fades in this promo. I think it’s a mystery where we think all is well, but.....
Great song for a tease of what’s to come.
It makes me think of Twin Peaks from what we see, and don’t see.
 

tomswift2002

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The snippet is small and only a couple of seconds of vocal. I think there is some kind of legal rule that royalties have to be paid to ASCAP or BMI if they use more than a certain amount of any song on air. They mention it sometimes on the Today Show and others, playing or even just singing a lyric will cost the show or network money. That includes a promo, Talk Show or news show. Any format for a profit. Maybe Chris May would be better information . Just like radio stations have to pay royalties for the music they play. Anyway, I think that’s why it quickly fades in this promo. I think it’s a mystery where we think all is well, but.....
Great song for a tease of what’s to come.
It makes me think of Twin Peaks from what we see, and don’t see.
That’s outdated. Production companies could sample upto 30 seconds of recorded music in the 80’s before having to pay royalties. But that was changed in the 90’s.
 

David A

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Yes, no ruined fantasies here, just nice to see their music used in some way, in 2020.

I wouldn't expect to hear much more, although in one way, using Carpenters music in a show that has something really dark about it, might add an an interesting juxtaposition with what is seen certainly by most as the "innocence" of Carpenters music. Depending upon targeted demographic for this show, it's unlikely that Carpenters tunes would be familiar enough to make that contrast as stark to the viewer, as those of us who know them well, though...

I would certainly hope it wasn't used in any derisive way, as sadly, we've seen before.
 

John Tkacik

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There is a new 2:00 "full trailer" for the series on ABC's YouTube site and snippets from TOP OF THE WORLD are played in 3 different parts of the trailer. The 2nd snippet played was not a familiar version to me. It sounded similar to the style used in the reprises for Yesterday Once More and A Song For You.
 

Harry

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The 2nd snippet played was not a familiar version to me. It sounded similar to the style used in the reprises for Yesterday Once More and A Song For You
It's just a re-processed snippet that's all phased and slowed down. Still Carpenters, though.
 
I wonder how many new downloads of TOTW this will generate as people hear the song and either remember it fondly or hear for the first time, then can’t get it out of their heads so they have to download it.
 
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