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Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Dave, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. Jamesj75

    Jamesj75 Well-Known Member

    I, too, really enjoyed this interview. Here's what I find interesting: in other threads, we have discussed countless songs we wished we could hear Karen sing (or we wished had been recorded by Carpenters). And yet, Richard's choice ("But Beautiful") is a song unfamiliar to me. Of course, I have learned that it is a "standard," and I realize my music knowledge pales in comparison to that of Richard (and many others here, for that matter). But Richard clearly knew which songs were tailor-made for Karen, and we are the beneficiaries of that wisdom...
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  2. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^A good point to raise, James.
    However, consider that very few "standards" were actually "cut" and "released"
    during Karen's lifetime by Carpenters (or, during the "A&M Years").
    Excepting for the songs for the TV Special Music, Music, Music
    there seems to have been a dis-concern for "cutting" standards during Karen's lifetime.
    Obviously, this was due to the desire to "get the next pop hit."
    1983, strangely enough, saw Linda ronstadt release her successful "standards" album.
    There seems No evidence that anyone, in Carpenters' camp,
    was willing to record more of that type of sound at that time.
    I remember thinking to myself---when What's New--was new,
    why Carpenters had not gone down that road previously (with an entire album).
    Obviously, no one believed an album of "standards" would be profitable financially.
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  3. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    Listen to "But Beautiful" by Kenny Rogers on the Timepiece album.
  4. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    I would bet any money that this is one of Richard’s biggest regrets. Concentrating on forgettable tunes like Beechwood, At The End Of The Song and Prime Time Love when they should have been focused on putting out jazz and pop standards as Linda Ronstadt was doing.
  5. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    If he turns up at our bash in April, and if I get the chance, I will ask him this question :)
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  6. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Or how about “Love Making Love To You” And “Don’t Try To Win Me Back” which are fully finished and which Karen apparently approved of prior to whatever decision caused their removal from the album track list.

    Or one song I’m surprised he hasn’t finished is “Last One Singing The Blues”.

    But with Karen’s unreleased tracks, it’s surprising that he hasn’t finished them or released a double CD featuring them on disc 2, considering that Richard apparently put out the Como medley to combat the bootleg versions.
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  7. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    I was listening to Something’s Missing earlier this week and thought exactly the same. It’s a lovely song that Karen sings wonderfully, and I’m sure Richard could do something great with it.
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  8. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    I think the whole solo album episode brings back bad memories for Richard (Karen breaking away, his quaalude episode etc) and as such he probably has no desire to go back and start tinkering with the outtakes. Remixing them for a Carpenters album is one thing, but finishing them off as solo tracks is another. If the finished album was deemed unsuitable for release, what hope do the other tracks have?
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  9. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^I tend to agree with your observation. It still pains me that the outstanding album
    Lovelines is such an unknown album 'to the general public.'
    On the other hand, Richard showed his arranging flair with
    If I Had You, and the song was reasonably well-accepted (at the time) for radio.
    Even so, that great album never got the push it needed,
    and, I always wondered if it (the neglect) was due to the solo-songs appearing on it.
  10. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    In the scant interviews I’ve heard with Richard to promote the album’s release, the interviewers focused on how good the solo tracks, in particular If I Had You. That can’t have gone down well with him. It’s almost a latter day vindication that the album was worthy of release after all.
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  11. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^I had to re-watch that 1989 Television advertisement for the LP Lovelines.
    To a viewer--at that time--with the exception of If I Had You playing throughout the commercial,
    you would never know that the songs on the album were anything but "classic Carpenters."
    That is, that commercial could have been a lot more informative regards content.
  12. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Carpenters will make an appearance this Friday on The Decades Network (The Best of Ed Sullivan). Starting at 7:30am EST and repeats throughout the day.

    Sorry, I tried to post Friday's schedule but it wouldn't post the right date.

    I know they show this continually in their rotation, but I love Karen's youthful look and her sweet sweet smile at the end of their performance! :love:
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  13. New Horizons.

    New Horizons. Active Member

    Rainy days and Mondays RPO on Paul O'Gradys BBC radio 2 show as I type this.
  14. Kaisu

    Kaisu Member

    I was on a bus yesterday, coming home from work around midnight. To my surprise I Won't Last A Day Without You started playing on the bus drivers radio, I think it was coming from YLE Radio Suomi (equivalent of BBC here on Finland). I guess there was a reason I had forgotten my earbuds at home. I even had to sing a long a bit really quiet (there was no one expect me and the driver in the bus at that time. Later on there was some jolly German girls on the bus among other people, so it's great the song was playing at that time I was alone because later I wouldn't have heard anything.)
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2019
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  15. New Horizons.

    New Horizons. Active Member

    According to my radio/tv guide Richard was supposed to be a guest on todays Graham Norton show on radio 2.I didn't hear it but he doesn't seem to have been.Maybe a London visit is imminent?
  16. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    I didn’t hear it either, but my mum says she listened to part of the show and Richard wasn’t mentioned, so it seems unlikely he appeared. Fingers crossed for a London visit!



    I`ve had radio 2 on all day and not heard anything ..... misprint?
  18. Here in Israel, one of the national radio stations, Reshet Bet (Network B) has a program from Sunday to Thursday at 3-4 PM called Rig'ey Kesem (Magic Moments), on which they play "golden oldies".

    I don't usually get to hear the program, but today I was in the car as the program started. It opened with Goodbye to Love! After the song, the host said that it was in honor of Karen Carpenter's birthday, which was yesterday (the program was not broadcast yesterday), and she would have been 69 today. He then said that she died tragically at age 30. He also mentioned that she was a wonderful drummer as well as a great singer. Finally, he played Yesterday Once More also.

    I imagine that there were also such tributes to Karen elsewhere around the world on her birthday.
  19. Kacfan

    Kacfan Member

    I seem to remember an interview where Richard said that one of the unreleased tracks on Karen’s solo project was very carpenters’isque, and that given the chance he would like to do an arrangement for it. I assumed that he meant “something is missing”. Does anyone else remember this comment from Richard ?
  20. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    Yes I do, but I can't remember for the life of me where I read it.
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  21. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    The singer Gabrielle has been this week’s guest on Radio 2’s Tracks of My Years in the U.K. and she chose Top of the World as one of her choices this morning. I was pleased to discover she’s a Carpenters fan :)
  22. goodjeans

    goodjeans Active Member

    WXPN Monday Morning.
    "Rainy Days And Mondays".
    Thrilling to hear it.
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  23. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    Graham Norton’s just played Please Mr. Postman. I only caught the very end, but he said it was the RPO version. He also mentioned the A-Z interview with Richard.
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  24. Chris Mills

    Chris Mills Well-Known Member

    Just listened to it on BBC Sounds, and it was the RPO version of Please Mr Postman.
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  25. Sue

    Sue Active Member

    Paul Williams on BBC radio 2 in the early hours of this morning.
    “He’s Only Just Begun”

    Plenty of Carpenters tracks played. It’s available to download.

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