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HERB ALPERT IS... (Documentary and Box Sets)

Rudy

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It would be nice to have, but not for 100 bucks...
Exactly--repurchasing music I already own just to get a $100 (or $322*) booklet makes no sense.

Don't get me wrong--it's a beautiful set and the selection of tunes across the discs is certainly better and more representative of Herb's career than any other anthology I've ever seen. If I were someone who collected nice box sets and didn't own much in the way of his music, this would
be on my list for certain. But I'm not the target market for this set, so, kudos to whoever buys it.

* The vinyl set is overpriced at Amazon, but the preorder price this early in the game is usually not settled in yet. It's usually a better indicator closer to release day what the actual price is, as I've seen the same happen with so many other items during preorder, a price tacked on with no rhyme or reason. If I were in the market for this set, the vinyl set is the one that's going to be the true collectible here. From the photos, the binding looks tops notch, and the book and record sleeves are bound in together.

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Harry

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There are other sites selling it for a little less. Amazon will likely adjust downward closer to release day.
 

Murray

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Here is an exclusive Variety interview with Herb that explains a lot about the Documentary and Collectors Box Set:

Herb Alpert Talks Documentary, Companion Boxed Set Coming in October: ‘I Always Felt I’m in Somewhat of a Dream’ (EXCLUSIVE)
I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read this line: “I don’t handle that end of it. My nephew, Randy ‘Bad-Ass’ Alpert, handles that end of it for me, and I go along with him." :shock: :laugh:


(Obviously, the interviewer misunderstood when Herb said "Badazz")
 

Mike Blakesley

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I'll definitely buy it for the book and packaging. Since I already have all the songs on my digitized collection there's no need to re-rip all of it... unless there are some new remasterings or some such, which I doubt. I'm looking forward to the documentary more than the box set, to be honest.

I will admit to a little (OK, a lot) disappointment that there are no tracks on it that aren't on previous HAP releases. I mean, they coulda done something from Lost Treasures maybe, since that's gone now. Or my big wishlist item, "Desert Dance."

There is also that old Billboard article (that I sure wish I'd photocopied) that said something about a bunch of Sol Lake tunes being "in the can." I guess that means the garbage can, or maybe they burned up in the Universal fire. I guess we will never know.... that stuff is lost to the ages. At least we can still hit up Youtube for the "wet" version of "Brasilia."
 

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I'll definitely buy it for the book and packaging. Since I already have all the songs on my digitized collection there's no need to re-rip all of it... unless there are some new remasterings or some such, which I doubt. I'm looking forward to the documentary more than the box set, to be honest.

I will admit to a little (OK, a lot) disappointment that there are no tracks on it that aren't on previous HAP releases. I mean, they coulda done something from Lost Treasures maybe, since that's gone now. Or my big wishlist item, "Desert Dance."

There is also that old Billboard article (that I sure wish I'd photocopied) that said something about a bunch of Sol Lake tunes being "in the can." I guess that means the garbage can, or maybe they burned up in the Universal fire. I guess we will never know.... that stuff is lost to the ages. At least we can still hit up Youtube for the "wet" version of "Brasilia."
Lost Treasures does seem to be a lost treasure.. It’s not even on Spotify or other streaming services. I wonder why..
 

A&M Retro

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The boxed set is exciting news indeed! And a coffee table book to go with the LP set sounds even better. Let’s hope the price comes down.
 

Rudy

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The boxed set is exciting news indeed! And a coffee table book to go with the LP set sounds even better. Let’s hope the price comes down.
Keep an eye on the price--near release day it should drop to somewhere around the suggested list price. Amazon in particular has no price history on unique items like box sets and the label may not have been provided with a list price for it, so their algorithm (for better or worse) determines the price listed for the preorder. When others put up preorders with prices, and those price tend to all be about the same, they will adjust theirs to be closer. (It also helps to report lower prices to Amazon.)
 

Mike Blakesley

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It's funny how promotional pics for vinyl sets always show the records laying on a table stacked atop each other, plus the rest of the package (or in this case, the 180 page book) is sitting on top of the records. Both huge no-nos for any vinyl freak!
 

Rudy

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A lot of those vinyl photos are mocked up in Photoshop--if you look closely at some box set images, you'll notice the same pattern of grooves on each record that is "fanned" out. Look closely at the box set image above and you can see the same pattern of grooves on each disc:

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Even single LPs. The latest Mavericks vinyl release is spread over two records, with three tracks on each side. Yet if you look at the stock image, the label is photoshopped on to an image of an LP. (I bought a limited edition pressing that sold out very quickly, so I can't paste the image of it here--it sold out within hours.)

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The photo montage above for Herb's set is misleading--it is only the hard-bound book/record jacket in a slipcase. That montage makes it look like there is a lot more to it. I mean, OK, I realize it myself (it's the set photographed from different angles), but I hope someone else isn't getting this set and expecting everything in that photo.
 

Bobberman

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I agree with Rudy on this one I think the few Herb rarities that remain will most likely Remain unreissued I too was hoping for a box set of rarities but not expecting any so no disappointments here this set I think is more for the new fans and those just getting into the music other than the book and the DVD of the movie I dont need the music set here because I already have Everything I'm hoping to at least see this documentary to be Released on DVD because I plan to include it in my permanent collection alongside my only Herb DVD Video "Live At Montreux" with the Jeff Lorber band. But again Time will tell but wherever its showing on any of my sites I have I will be watching it
 

Mike Blakesley

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A lot of those vinyl photos are mocked up in Photoshop--if you look closely at some box set images, you'll notice the same pattern of grooves on each record that is "fanned" out.
True, and if you look at the fanned-out book, it doesn't look like it's really sitting on the records either. It's just the principle of the thing I guess.
 

Mike Blakesley

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Since Amazon doesn't show the content of the box set, I have copied the list below.

  1. The Lonely Bull – from the album The Lonely Bull
  2. Winds Of Barcelona – from the album Volume 2
  3. Mexican Corn – from the album Volume 2
  4. South Of The Border – from the album South Of The Border
  5. Mexican Shuffle – from the album South Of The Border
  6. All My Loving – from the album South Of The Border
  7. A Taste Of Honey – from the album Whipped Cream & Other Delights
  8. Green Peppers – from the album Whipped Cream & Other Delights
  9. Bittersweet Samba – from the album Whipped Cream & Other Delights
  10. Whipped Cream – from the album Whipped Cream & Other Delights
  11. Tijuana Taxi – from the album !!Going Places!!
  12. I’m Getting Sentimental Over You – from the album !!Going Places!!
  13. Spanish Flea – from the album !!Going Places!!
  14. 3rd Man Theme – from the album !!Going Places!!
  15. Zorba The Greek – from the album !!Going Places!!
  16. What Now My Love – from the album What Now My Love
  17. Memories Of Madrid – from the album What Now My Love
  18. So what’s New? – from the album What Now My Love
  19. Magic Trumpet – from the album What Now My Love
  20. Brasilia – from the album What Now My Love
  21. If I Were A Rich Man – from the album What Now My Love
  22. The Work Song – from the album S.R.O.
  23. Mame – from the album S.R.O.
  24. Flamingo – from the album S.R.O.
  25. Bo-Bo – from the album Sounds Like…
  26. Town Without Pity – from the album Sounds Like…
  27. Treasure Of San Miguel – from the album Sounds Like…
  28. Casino Royale – from the album Sounds Like…
  29. A Banda – from the album Herb Alpert’s Ninth
  30. Panama – from the album The Beat Of The Brass
  31. Slick – from the album The Beat Of The Brass
  32. This Guy’s In Love With You – from the album The Beat Of The Brass
  33. The Sea Is My Soil – from the album Warm
  34. Hurt So Bad – from the album Summertime
  35. Jerusalem – from the album Summertime
  36. You Smile – The Song Begins – from the album You Smile – The Song Begins
  37. Up Cherry Street – from the album You Smile – The Song Begins
  38. Skokiaan – from the album Herb Alpert / Hugh Masekela
  39. Rise – from the album Rise
  40. Rotation – from the album Rise
  41. Beyond – from the album Beyond
  42. The Factory – from the album Beyond
  43. Fandango – from the album Fandango
  44. Route 101 – from the album Fandango
  45. Keep Your Eye On Me – from the album Keep Your Eye On Me
  46. Diamonds – from the album Keep Your Eye On Me
  47. My Abstract Heart – from the album Abstract Heart
  48. Just A Dream Away – from the album Abstract Heart
  49. I’ve Grown Accustomed To Her Face – from the album Midnight Sun
  50. Second Wind – from the album Second Wind
  51. Sneakin’ In – from the album Second Wind
  52. Magic Man – from the album Colors
  53. Puttin’ On The Ritz – from the album Steppin’ Out
  54. La Vie En Rose – from the album Steppin’ Out
  55. Night Ride – from the album Come Fly With Me
  56. Human Nature – from the album Human Nature
  57. I’m Yours – from the album Music Vol. 1
  58. Strike Up The Band – from the album Music Vol. 1
  59. The Lonely Bull – from the album Music Volume 3: Herb Alpert Reimagines The Tijuana Brass
  60. Whipped Cream – from the album Music Volume 3: Herb Alpert Reimagines The Tijuana Brass
  61. A Taste Of Honey – from the album Music Volume 3: Herb Alpert Reimagines The Tijuana Brass
  62. Wade In the Water – from the album Music Volume 3: Herb Alpert Reimagines The Tijuana Brass
  63. What A Wonderful World – from the album Over The Rainbow
 

Rudy

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True, and if you look at the fanned-out book, it doesn't look like it's really sitting on the records either. It's just the principle of the thing I guess.
Oh I know it--I still cringe even when it's Photoshopped. 😁
Since Amazon doesn't show the content of the box set, I have copied the list below.
It's a really nice cross-section of his catalog. I'm not into the anthologies much, but this is the first time I've seen "Skokiaan" outside of the original album. Even the nod to fans with "The Sea is my Soil" is an inspired choice.
 

Mike Blakesley

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I know, I was very glad to see that there. One of his best ever that didn't get any attention on previous comps. (Maybe Randy is a fan of it.)

Speaking of BadAzz, I got a chance to say a brief hello to him after we saw Herb's concert last year in Seattle. He remembered who I was from A&M Corner. I told him we missed seeing his posts on here so hopefully he will chime in again at some point.
 

Harry

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It's a really interesting collection of songs, and I'll be curious to see if there are any surprises as to which versions appear.
 

Rudy

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It's a really interesting collection of songs, and I'll be curious to see if there are any surprises as to which versions appear.
Indeed. If I were doing a career-wide playlist, many of these would be included. Granted, a lot of us here are fond of some of the deeper album cuts, but those aren't something you'd find on a box set anyways. The problem with many of the "greatest hits" and "best of" anthologies in the past couple of decades is that many times, they are programmed by "suits" at a record label, with some encouragement to add a couple of newly recorded tracks in order to generate sales.

The theme on this box set reminds me in a way of some of Rhino's older box sets where the track listings were considered with care so they represented the artist, as opposed to covering the hits everyone already knows. Sure there are a few omissions we'd like to see but overall, something has to be cut to keep the set a manageable size.
 

Mr Bill

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While I will likely get the CD version, I have to say I'm disappointed at the lack of track(s) from Just You & Me ("Promenade" or "Musique" would be GREAT choices) and Coney Island (the title track and/or "Carmine" would be good choices).

The representation of tracks post-Beyond to the "ALMOSounds" era is disappointing (not that there's much in that period that really "grabbed" me outside of some tracks from Fandango (well represented) or Passion Dance). The tracks from Volume 3 could easily have been substituted with many of these. At this price point, would a 6th disc been all that big a deal to add?

But the book is worth the price of admission -- or should be (fingers crossed)...

Just my 2c... your mileage may vary.

--Mr Bill
 
Oh I know it--I still cringe even when it's Photoshopped. 😁

It's a really nice cross-section of his catalog. I'm not into the anthologies much, but this is the first time I've seen "Skokiaan" outside of the original album. Even the nod to fans with "The Sea is my Soil" is an inspired choice.
But nothing from Main Event Live, which is very unfortunate. In many ways, it’s better than the Alpert-Masekela studio album.

Also would’ve been good to add Noche de Amor and the other track from the non US version of Blow Your Own Horn.
 

Rudy

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3 CDs/5 LPs can't cover everything across a nearly 60 year career, and fan favorite deep cuts are low on the list of being included in any box set. I could dig up probably two or three dozen of my own favorites that aren't in the box, yet I don't expect them to be included--at what point does a set get cut off in terms of what is on it? We all have our ideal versions of a box set in our minds, but this set is out there for everyone, not just us, and the idea was to present a career-wide swath of recordings and styles while keeping it contained to a manageable size. Expanding it to 4 CDs would have probably required the vinyl version to expand to 7 LPs, and the more music that is included, the higher the price. 3 CDs/5 LPs is a sweet spot for boxes like this, in terms of cost.

It might be fun in a separate thread to create our own "box set" that would fit 3 CD/5 LPs (with ~200 minutes being the goal), as we've done that in the past. Regardless, the official set is done and ready to go, so what we see is what we're getting in October. 😉
 

Mike Blakesley

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I created my own TJB box set about 10 years ago.... which was also 3-CDs. I need to get that out and see how much crossover there is with the new set. Of course mine predates about half of the material that appears on disk 3!
 
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