Herb Alpert REWHIPPED: Comments + Poll

Vote for your favorite track on RE-WHIPPED

  • Whipped Cream

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • A Taste Of Honey

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Green Peppers

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Ladyfingers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Love Potion #9

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Peanuts

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tangerine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • El Garbanzo

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Lemon Tree

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lollipops And Roses

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Bittersweet Samba

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Butterball

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
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I wonder had William Orbit (who did Madonna's "Ray Of Light" in 1997) & Fatboy Slim would have done with "Rewhipped?" :confused: Matt Clark Sanford, MI
 
AM Matt said:
I wonder had William Orbit (who did Madonna's "Ray Of Light" in 1997) & Fatboy Slim would have done with "Rewhipped?" :confused:

I would rather Madonna and company to stay as far away from Herb as possible. Don't need any skankiness here!




Capt. Bacardi
 
I think William Orbit and FatBoy Sim would've done a phenomenal job. Their was certainly enough tracks to do so with this Marinelli guy taking on five songs himsef and everyone else only taking on one (or 2 in Ozomatli's case).

And, brother snark Bill, Orbit is not Madonna, though it's unfortunate for him that most associate him with Madonna despite his huge body of solo material (the Strange Cargo series, etc) and work with his own band Torch Song (on I.R.S. Records, no less)...

--Mr Bill
 
My doubts about this project vanished after a quick listen. Yes, it's "beat heavy," and full of quirky sonic effects that are new to my 52 year old ears, BUT ... TJB fans should rest assured that "Re-whipped" is always melodic, playful, and relentlessly entertaining. The album features a generous injection of some of Herb's hottest, most sensuous playing EVER. The new arrangements and production give the album (I dare suggest)a "psychedelic" feel ... which could well have been a horrible thing, but in this case it's an entirely "good trip." A huge artistic gamble -- messing with a classic -- but Herb and company pulled it off. Whether RW sells 10,000 copies, or a million, Herb retains his supreme "hipness," and sublime musical instincts. And DAMN, let me say again that his horn has NEVER sounded better ... I am wowed by his tone, panache, and agility, and of course Herb knows just the right notes to play, and, of equal importance -- are you listening Maynard Fergeson? -- what to leave out. It's high time those elitest critics realize that Herb Alpert uses "silence" as effectively as Count Basie, on the piano. I hope Herb returns to the studio soon, and I know exactly the type of album -- instrumentation, songs, production-style -- that would burnish his wonderful musical legacy ... but I'll reserve these thoughts for another post (and please remember, Herb, we will still require Warm and TBAC at your earliest convenience.) But in the meantime, thank you for brightening my spirits with your remarkable new album.
 
I usually find advance copies when I'm not actively seeking them. It requires regularly sifting through the dollar racks at the used disc stores. Fortunately the clerks just toss them in the bin and most customers are too lazy or in a hurry to dig through them.

The Shout Factory advance discs have a blue (CDR) underside and are in a slim jewel case with no booklet/liner notes. About a month before their release I found promos of SOUNDS LIKE, NINTH and BEAT, so I'm hoping this one turns up soon as well.
JB
 
Well here I go. I got my copy today and have listened to it a couple of times.

My favorite songs are:

1. A Taste of Honey...I've always liked this song/arrangement. I think this would be just fine for FM radio types.

2. Love Potion #9...I feel with fair air-play this one could be a new HA & the TJB hit. It's got everything, cool brass, good vocals, and Hal Blaine's stripper drumming.

3. Whipped Cream... Cleaver re-mix creating some new tags and horn fills. But, I don't think Mr. Wechter would have liked it.

4. Bittersweet Samba...This was a pleasant surprise. Adding the digital percussion to the original recording made me not want the song to end.

Although I'll be listening to the CD more and more over the years, as of today I felt the rest of the songs were to fragmented, and erratic. The "scratcher effect" is good when used in moderation but it became a bit unsettling to me and even kinda' manic. When they were using the technique where it sounds like your CD is skipping...I kept checking out my player. :shock:

I'd have to say my least favorite song was "Butterball". On the original it was an uplifting shuffle/dixieland piece but this one sounded like something you would hear walking by a porno-shop. Yes I said walking by... :badteeth:

Over all, I like it, it's original, and I hope it does well. :thumbsup:
Later amigos...........JO
 
I played it cranked-up on the theatre's sound system tonight hoping to generate a few "what IS this?" from the audience. No luck. But the dang thing is growing on me by leaps and bounds now. I think my favorite track is shaping up to be "Ladyfingers" but I can't shake "Whipped Cream" from my head either. This is significant because I didn't like either of those all that much on the original album. :thumbsup:

Something strange about the album credits: Most of the tracks say "Trumpet: Herb Alpert" but not all do. And some of the ones that DON'T have that credit, still seem to have fresh trumpet parts. ??? I can't imagine anyone else played on the disk but why wouldn't Herb get credit on some tunes?
 
Jay Maynes/Juan Oskar said:
The "scratcher effect" is good when used in moderation but it became a bit unsettling to me and even kinda' manic. When they were using the technique where it sounds like your CD is skipping...I kept checking out my player. :shock:

That was my initial thought too about "Green Peppers" with all of the random stopping and starting. Then it hit me - Herb was the old master at songs that stopped and started. He must've given DJ's fits back in the '60s when songs sounded like they were over, only to start up again. "Green Peppers" was a classic in that regard, so I feel the update is still being true to the original's spirit. The more I listen to the track, the better it gets.

Harry
 
For those of you who have the advanced copy of the CD: Notice that there's a difference on "Bittersweet Samba" in that there is a muted trumpet part at the beginning and in the middle on the actual release. This is missing on the advanced copy!



Capt. Bacardi
 
Captain Bacardi said:
For those of you who have the advanced copy of the CD: Notice that there's a difference on "Bittersweet Samba" in that there is a muted trumpet part at the beginning and in the middle on the actual release. This is missing on the advanced copy!
Capt. Bacardi

You know, I was listening on the way home and heard that muted trumpet that I hadn't noticed before. Interesting - the advance CD has a pre-release mix.

Harry
 
LPJim said:
The Shout Factory advance discs have a blue (CDR) underside and are in a slim jewel case with no booklet/liner notes.

The one I got for RE-WHIPPED is a finished silver disc, with the WHIPPED CREAM logo on the left side of the disc, made to look like it's a label stuck, on a CD. An odd thing is that the CD artwork is made to look like you're looking at a CD, complete with some backwards writing around the hub - and it says "UNIVERSAL". I wonder if that was a little message that "Universal is a bit backwards"?

The advance disc is housed in a mini-LP card sleeve with the other picture of Bree Conden looking at the old WHIPPED CREAM LP, and an old A&M disc on a turntable. The backside has the album credits, a picture of the old WHIPPED CREAM album, and a straight-line larger print track list. I think these images were posted in another thread by Steve.

Harry
 
Mike Blakesley said:
"Lemon Tree" is great but why do these remixers insist on programming the bass to play the exact same note over and over and over and over and over and over through the whole song when the melody clearly demands a different bass note? I know it's all in the 'arrangement' but sheeeeez. This otherwise-great arrangement is marred by that same note repeated ad nauseum.

That bothered me initially, but now I find that constant bass note adds an air of mystery to the track, as if it were the soundtrack to some movie thriller. The whole track has a rather ethereal quality about it now.

Harry
 
Captain Bacardi said:
For those of you who have the advanced copy of the CD: Notice that there's a difference on "Bittersweet Samba" in that there is a muted trumpet part at the beginning and in the middle on the actual release. This is missing on the advanced copy!
Capt. Bacardi

There are some interesting differences in the two "Bittersweet Samba" tracks.

The Advance CD starts with a cymbal crash leading to a push-and-pull Brazilian samba rhythm. Herb's initial trumpet note hits at the :09 mark.

The stock CD starts with a fade-up with a straighter rhythm, not as much push-and-pull. Herb's initial trumpet hits at the :07 mark.

I think there may be other differences as well. It's definitely a different "mix".

Harry
 
I voted for the first cut, "Whipped Cream." It was never a real favortie of mine, but this version really works, I think. I have heard this CD a few times now, and have grown to like it a lot, but that is no surprise to me, as I always really enjoy Herb's sound, and there is plenty here. I also bought my trumpet-playing stepdaughter a copy, and she loves it! She thinks he's a cool guy, and this coming from a 14 year old. I also got a surprise when I went into the local Tower Record store and was greeted with "Lemon Tree." They were playing the whole CD on their loud system and so I stuck around to listen to the rest of the CD. When I bought the copies, the sales girl said, "Hey, we just played that!"
 
Do I like REWHIPPED as much as the original WCAOD? Not a chance. Do I think it was worth the $12 I paid for it? Absolutely. It's a playful fun album and infinitely more listenable IMHO than NORTH ON SOUTH STREET or COLORS. Although NOSS has grown a little with me over the years. If REWHIPPED is a prelude to the rest of the TJB catalog being reissued than I say BRAVO! If it is the end of the reissue project then I say that Herb left a few very undesirable holes in the project. I hope the CD sells well and keeps Herb's interest in the reissue project alive as well as future recordings.

David,
NP REWHIPPED
 
Well, I purchased the ReWhipped CD, and I have been listening...

I admire what Herb has done with updating/adding trumpet parts and solos. Cool.

I think it is interesting to hear how some of the songs have some different rhythmic accompaniments; e.g. Whipped Cream and Lollipops and Roses. It goes to show that these songs can be re-invented with a different approach, and still be worthwhile and not ruined.

There are parts of it that do not particularly appeal to me - the more "electronic" a sound becomes, the less I like it...and there are parts of it that I do enjoy. Whipped Cream, Taste of Honey, and Lollipops and Roses are the tracks that I find myself repeating. So, my reaction is mixed - but what I do enjoy, I enjoy.

What I really think I would have liked a lot in regard to a remake or reinvention of this classic album would have been to go into the studio with an updated band of hot shot players; jazzed up, hot new arrangements, new rhythmic concepts (as this album has done), and re-record all the songs - a sort of Whipped Cream - 40th Anniversary Edition.
 
"El Garbanzo" is growing on me big time...The saxes remind me of the old timers from South Phoenix I know. The snare drum slap/rim shots are done like the Norteño players. Lots of real energy.

Maybe "Lemon Tree" could be used on the Art Bell Show. :laugh: later...J
 
For me, "A Taste Of Honey" falls between being "improved" and remaining "unspoiled"... Guess my making it #1, comes from being a fan of that particular tune, and having owned many versions, instrumental & vocal, alike... My 2nd favorite goes to "Whipped Cream"--easy to see why Herb et al. wanted it to be heard first, and the "authenticity" of it, as well as the other tracks really isn't diminished, as what's been a major concern, among the "purists"!

No, Herb's Tone really does remain intact and there really is "genuine trumpet" heard throughout! iOlé! :bandit:


Dave
 
Okay... I've been listening to this almost constantly since I picked ip on release day....

Closed minded folks like the guy who posted the first review at Amazon (whose name will not be mentioned to avoid embarrassing him with his ignorance) are not only jaded but obviously have not listened to the CD...

What do I like best? I am finding that the tracks I liked least on the original release -- the "throwaways" or "album filler" cuts -- are the ones that are most improved with this release.... "Butterball" reminds me of Bill Nelson's "Orchestra Arcana" releases and the slow songs ("Tangerine," Lemon Tree" and "LadyFingers") are most enjoyable in this new format!

Someone said teh repetitive bass note in ther remix annoyed them... Well listen to the orignal. You have a piano bass note leading just about every measure. I'm not surprised that an electronic bass note is replacing that in the "re-whip."

It's different. It's hip. And as Captain B says, it's almost like a new solo album from Herb, just revisiting calssics from the past.

--Mr Bill
while Herb has allowed his most iconic release to be remixed, I'm thinking his most "hit-laden" LP deserves a "rewhipping" -- Yes, let's re-mix Going Places!!!!
 
What do I like best? I am finding that the tracks I liked least on the original release -- the "throwaways" or "album filler" cuts -- are the ones that are most improved with this release.... "Butterball" reminds me of Bill Nelson's "Orchestra Arcana" releases and the slow songs ("Tangerine," Lemon Tree" and "LadyFingers") are most enjoyable in this new format!
I agree completely. Those four songs you mention are my least favorites on the old disk, and are among my top picks on the new one.

Someone said teh repetitive bass note in ther remix annoyed them...
That was me. I still have not quite gotten used to the bass on "Lemon Tree" but it's growing on me. The whole disk is, in fact.

I'm still not sure what my favorite cut is, "Whipped Cream" is leading the way but there are others I'm finding more and more favor with. This is definitely one you can't dismiss after one listen, and you have to play it loud to get the full effect.
 
Having received an advance copy of "Re-whipped" I find that it is fun, creative and really a very good album. It's a great "update" on the TJB sound and Herb's new solos are great. I have played it for some younger musician friends that gave good response to it. Personal favorites are Whipped Cream and Love Potion No.9.

- greetings from the cold, snowy north -
Martin
 
I'm still listening to it just about every day. Even a couple of the rock hounds at work have told me they like it.

Harry
 
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