"Memories of Madrid" & "More and More Amor" best songs by Sol Lake*

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  1. Sharon D.

    Sharon D. New Member Thread Starter

    Anyone agree?
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  2. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    Both are gorgeous songs with great melodies. If I had to choose one it would be "Memories Of Madrid". I particularly like the version of "Memories Of Madrid" on the old LP (the "wet" version) with its light reverb on the lead trumpets.
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  3. AM Matt

    AM Matt Well-Known Member

    "Memories Of Madrid", "Mexican Road Race" & "Cowboys And Indians" have that "da, da, da, da"!! Matt Clark Sanford, MI
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  4. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I agree with Harry but I would add Green Peppers From Whipped cream and other delights it's Really Impossible to choose just one or two because for many of us we have many favorites
  5. Mike Blakesley

    Mike Blakesley Well-Known Member Moderator

    I can honestly say there's no Sol Lake / TJB songs that I don't like. I like all of them. It'd be very hard to pick a fave. I think the earliest one I fell for was "Green Peppers." I love how it stops in the middle.

    Some years ago there was a Billboard article where Herb said he had some Sol Lake songs "in the can" that they might put out, but that never happened. Since then I've searched for that article and haven't been able to find it....So maybe it was a dream.
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  6. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    By The way Sharon Welcome to the Forum.
  7. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    Has anyone ever rounded up a list of Sol Lake songs around here? I thought we might have done it many years ago, but with my memory being what it is... :laugh:

    "Lonely Bull" started as "Twinkle Star." It makes me wonder what Lake's original demo of it might have sounded like. Herb's "bullfight" treatment gave it a different feel, no doubt! But imagine it being played as a solo piano piece, and it really does have a nice melody to it. I could probably say the same for "A Quiet Tear," if the somewhat bombastic arrangement is stripped away.
  8. Moritat

    Moritat Member

    I have 4 favorites... More & More Amor, Memories Of Madrid, Marjorine & Green Peppers. I think More & More Amor is the best tune by far off "Going Places", and it's certainly one of the 5 best tunes ever recorded by the TJB.
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  9. Captaindave

    Captaindave Well-Known Member

    Those are two great songs - among the finest. I rank both as favorites ever since I first heard them back in the 1960s when they were first released. I probably listen to Memories of Madrid more often, but More and More Amor is a classic for songs in the slower tempo category.

    I will say that I have never heard any Sol Lake song that I didn't like a lot. They are all unique, yet equally good, so any kind of comparison is difficult.
  10. DeeInKY

    DeeInKY Well-Known Member

    What! No takers for Cantina Blue? I’ve not heard any of his that I disliked, but this is my favorite. :phones:
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  11. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I too love Cantina Blue it's impossible to choose one or two to me all of them are Gems
  12. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    OK, I just looked at all the vinyl through Summertime and compiled a list of Sol Lake songs, with album titles, listed in order of which they appear on the albums. Two have co-composers.

    1. The Lonely Bull TLB
    2. El Lobo (Lake-Green) TLB
    3. Crawfish (Lake-Doran) TLB
    4. Winds Of Barcelona V2
    5. Marching Through Madrid V2
    6. Crea Mi Amor V2
    7. Mexican Shuffle SOTB
    8. El Presidente SOTB
    9. Salud Amor Y Dinero SOTB
    10. Adiós Mi Corazon SOTB
    11. Green Peppers WC&OD
    12. Bittersweet Samba WC&OD
    13. El Garbanzo WC&OD
    14. More and More Amor GP
    15. Memories of Madrid WNML
    16. Cantina Blue WNML
    17. Mexican Road Race SRO
    18. Bo Bo SL
    19. Cowboys and Indians Ninth
    20. A Beautiful Friend BOTB
    21. She Touched Me BOTB
    22. Marjorine Warm
    23. Country Lake TBAC
    24. Montezuma's Revenge Summertime

    This would make for about a CD's worth of programming. I am going to put together a playlist and sequence it, to see what I can come up with.
  13. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    Well, you need to start and/or end with "Winds Of Barcelona" and "El Presidente" as they are the same song, so they could bookend the program on the CD.
  14. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    I'm starting with this:


    "El Presidente" is good to open with, but I am not liking "Winds of Barcelona" as a closing track, and I would need to further split up the Volume 2 tracks to make this ideal. (Although it puts my lesser-favorite tracks towards the bottom.)

    The playlist is 1:01:42 in length. Easily one CD or two LPs (at six tracks per side--I try to program my playlists in blocks of five or six tracks that work well together).
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  15. Rudy

    Rudy ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Site Admin

    A mild reshuffling of the end of the list produces better results:


    "Presidente" and "Barcelona" are still kept apart sufficiently, like warring siblings. :D
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  16. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    Good list. Going from "Green Peppers" to "Marjorine" is inspired.
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  17. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    And if you have an hour to kill, here are the songs as listed above, segued radio-style.

  18. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    I've added in the titles and start times in the description on the YouTube page.
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  19. Mike Blakesley

    Mike Blakesley Well-Known Member Moderator

    Getting ready to create this same playlist on my computer.

    Funny about "Bo-Bo" -- I know it's a Sol Lake song, but with its quirky melody and key changes, it really reminds me of some of Julius Wechter's tunes.
  20. Bobberman

    Bobberman Well-Known Member

    I listened to this Earlier today and This is Very Well Done the segue effect gives it a Real Music Radio Feel to it. Excellent Job Harry. I give your effort 5 stars ( if I could give more I would.)
  21. Steven J. Gross

    Steven J. Gross Well-Known Member

    Like Julius Wechter, Lake was essential to the TjB sound...
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  22. DeeInKY

    DeeInKY Well-Known Member

    This is an excellent collection to walk by, exercise by, or as I'm currently doing, to do homework by (I'm just sayin'). Who would think that at this age I'd be doing homework! :D
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  23. Steven J. Gross

    Steven J. Gross Well-Known Member

    Frankly, to hard core TjB fans like me, these are their greatest hits, adding the Julius Wechter songs, it's their essence...
  24. Mike Blakesley

    Mike Blakesley Well-Known Member Moderator

    I made a CD compilation a few years ago called "Written in Brass," which consisted of tunes written by Herb's stable of writers. It's a fine collection indeed.
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  25. MoonCrash

    MoonCrash New Member

    Yes! More and More Amor is one of my all time favorite songs ever. And both Madrid songs, Memories and Marching are also way up there. Sol Lake is my favorite TJB contributor and I like almost everything he wrote, although I never really cared for Bo-Bo, Cowboys, and Country Lake. But even these misses still hold a lot of interest. What is intriguing to me is that it seems not much info is out there about Sol Lake. The few threads I've been able to come up with is that his full name was Solomon Lachoff. It said that he died sometime in the 80's and that he was at least a decade or more older than Herb. It metioned that Lake played with his own small ensemble. It would be wonderful to hear any recordings that may be out there.
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