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Apparently our old friend Captain B. is unimpressed. His review on Amazon is scathing!
I read that review just now and I understand he didn't like it at all but not everybody has the same tastes and likes needless to say we do Miss Captain B. And His insights we don't have to agree on everything But We can be agreeable regardless of all circumstances. Getting back on topic. I agree with you all concerning Spanish flea/Rise granted Rise is only represented by the opening beat pretty much but for me it's not really an issue as I mentioned previously Green peppers Along with Whipped Cream and El Presidente really stood out as well as Wade in the water. I still feel the Essence of the Brass Sound intact on this CD and it is what it is and I have a feeling Herb is Already at work planning for his next Recording. And it will be interesting to see what he comes Up with next.Apparently our old friend Captain B. is unimpressed. His review on Amazon is scathing!
I had one just prior to my last road trip--had an idler pulley due to arrive a week before so I could replace it. The part showed up at an Amazon warehouse about 45 minutes away. For days I waited--no tracking info, no movement, nothing. Ended up contacting them and they refunded for the order. How the part could just get lost so close to home makes me wonder sometimes. And the irony is that it was a Prime shipment.Last time I had an Amazon package go awry Amazon replaced it. Package left our local warehouse across town and went to Henderson, Nevada, and was never heard from again. (Even packages want a Vegas vacation!)
This brings up a fantasy I've had for a while, and that is to learn of Herb's early 80s work with Randy and others being remixed/re-imagined for the 21st century. Stuff like "Kamali", "Reach For The Stars", and of course "Red Hot" (among others) would be exciting with some fresh modifications. Some other early 80s Herb stuff ("Route 101", "Push And Pull", "Latin Lady", "Oriental Eyes", "Garden Party", etc.) would be interesting to hear with a 21st century treatment as well. Of course, it'll never happen. But I know of a few people who might enjoy these rarities given a new spin.After thinking this over, I have another theory. If you listen to a lot of Badazz compositions, it seems like the rhythm (or "groove") is just as important as the melody in his composing style.
We get a mixture of that here. We get a lot of Amazon deliveries here at the store -- they have sometimes 'saved our bacon' when our warehouse didn't have an item, or didin't have enough of it, but the thing was available on Amazon (usually at a higher price, but when you gotta save your bacon, you deal with that). For CDs, which I don't get all that many, but 100% of them have always been delivered directly here by Fed Ex or UPS. So I'm not sure what drives the different procedures in different areas. Cost, I suppose.they use the UPS/USPS program where UPS bulk delivers to the post office, who then does the "last mile" delivery.
I did notice that a lot of the rhythm tracks sounded largely the same. It was like a funky shuffle rhythm for the most part. But still enjoyable as the songs and original performances were so good. I tend to think about the new arrangements as I did with the remixes done back in the 80s. Some better, others not so much. We all have our preferences. But it's great to hear fresh takes on old classics nonetheless. At least this album wasn't so weird like the RE-WHIPPED album was. Many of those tracks were so out there that it was hardly recognizable what song was playing. If I had to pick, I'd choose Volume 3 any day.I'd really like to like this album. I like Herb's playing on it. I like some aspects of some of the arrangements. I was pleased that much of it seemed to be new recordings rather than just remixed TJB tracks. But I just can't get past the incessant, repetitive, thudding bass. It just overwhelms any musicality that's otherwise present in the album. I actually find it tiresome to listen to, and I can't say that about any of Herb's previous albums. Even ones where I didn't connect with a musical style or approach, they were always well mixed and listenable. This one, to me, isn't. I look forward to whatever Herb comes out with next - but this one is going on the shelf.
They may sound similar to an extent, but the execution was a lot different, and that is why Music Vol 3 is an easier and more recognizable listen for many of us.At least this album wasn't so weird like the RE-WHIPPED album was. Many of those tracks were so out there that it was hardly recognizable what song was playing. If I had to pick, I'd choose Volume 3 any day.
Good explanation.They may sound similar to an extent, but the execution was a lot different, and that is why Music Vol 3 is an easier and more recognizable listen for many of us.
With remixes (not just on Rewhipped, but for anyone these days), you are essentially handing off your work to a third party and have little to no input on what the outcome is. Each remix artist has their own style so for instance, someone familiar with Thievery Corporation would recognize their remix style on Herb's album like they would recognize a Thievery remix on any other artist's songs. In other words, the outcome is based on Thievery Corp's work created from sampling Herb's music (with some new solos overdubbed on top of it), vs. Music Vol 3 having Herb build up new tracks himself with the guidance of the producer...and at least here, he is sampling himself. Big difference there.
And I could also add that the traditional TJB fans were likely not the intended target for Rewhipped. If it brought new listeners back to enjoy the original recordings, then it's a win for everyone.
I like the whole album very much.I think it works well. In fact, other than "America" (like Mike), I pretty much like this whole album a lot. I just find that last track a little weak.
That is one thing for some fans to keep in mind with any new project that is a remix or a reimagining, as was done here--nobody is taking the originals away from us! I don't follow them but I've heard of some Beatles fans getting all bent out of shape from the Love compilation and I think there were also two recent remixed albums. The originals aren't going anywhere, and the new versions are there for others to enjoy.The original versions of these songs will always be the best to me, no matter how or what kind of updating or rearranging is done.
I totally agree and Again a Special Thanks to Randy for his Good Stewardship in his work with all the Reissues I have at least one digital copy of everything Except JYAM which is still A neeedledrop and I recently ripped it into my laptop Megamix with excellent results and No Regrets here either.While the original TJBs will never be remixed (quite the opposite--Randy took good care to preserve the originals as closely as possible to the original album releases), we can never take for granted that they will always be available. While I haven't purchased the CDs, I do have all of the high-res downloads plus the vinyl releases. No regrets!
Yes, Spanish Harlem shows some great arranging talent and execution. Very pleasant for listening. Well done, Herb! Another standout for me is Bittersweet Samba. This song has amazing new material from Herb on trumpet, and very catchy rhythms and harmonic phrases."America" has grown on me. I now find it a satisfactory conclusion.
Another that didn't really grab me initially is "Spanish Harlem". Now I find it something really special. Love the harmony in the arrangement.