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Potential Line-up for RPO 2

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by ullalume, Apr 14, 2019 at 3:16 AM.

  1. ullalume

    ullalume Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    I know, I know. . .it's wishful thinking, we were so lucky to get RPO 1 and some of us weren't even that crazy about that one, but I loved it and thought it might be fun to come up with a potential chronological track list for a sequel, if it were to occur.

    So let's use the first as a template. . . pick 18 tracks you think would be likely to feature.

    Here's mine (in date order)

    1)Overture (this time adapted from the opening piece from the Singles '69-'73)
    2)All of My Live
    4)Let Me Be The One
    5)A Song 4 U
    6)Gonna take Some Time
    7)Bless the Beasts
    8)Won't Last A Day
    9)Santa Claus
    11)Please Mr Postman
    12)Only Yesterday
    14)Kind of Hush
    16)You're The One
    17)Where Do I Go From Here
    18)Those Good Old Dreams

    I go back and forth on Occupants. On the one hand it's beautifully orchestrated and remixed already so not sure how it could benefit from this treatment. On the other, it was a big hit over here and would boost sales.

    Look forward to hearing your picks guys

  2. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    For an RPO2 I'm kind of torn between a non-seasonal album and a Christmas album. For a Christmas RPO I would generally follow the outline of Christmas Portrait Special Edition, so it would look like this:

    It Came Upon A Midnight Clear
    Overture (An Old-Fashioned Christmas)
    An Old-Fashioned Christmas
    Christmas Waltz
    Sleigh Ride
    It's Christmas Time/Sleep Well Little Children
    Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
    Santa Claus Is Coming To Town (musical interlude featuring a faster instrumental of the song, sort of like the original CP version, then slowing to the single version)
    The Christmas Song
    Carol of the Bells
    Silent Night
    Do You Hear What I Hear?
    Christ Is Born
    I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day
    (There's No Place Like) Home For the Holidays
    He Came Here For Me
    Winter Wonderland/Silver Bells/White Christmas
    The First Snowfall/Let It Snow
    Christmas Alphabet
    I'll Be Home For Christmas
    What Are You Doing New Year's Eve?

    Now then for a non-seasonal RPO2, it would look like this

    All You Get From Love Is A Love Song
    (Want You) Back In My Life Again
    My Body Keeps Changing My Mind
    Make Me Laugh
    You're Just In Love
    Beechwood 4-5789
    Prime Time Love
    Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore
    Two Sides
    Can't Smile Without You
    There's A Kind of Hush
    This Masquerade
    Crystal Lullaby
    Let Me Be The One
    Love Is Surrender
    Say Yeah!
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  3. Greg

    Greg Member

    Hmmmmmm, this is a tricky one ... Occupants MUST be there - Richard could reimagine the arrangment - Goodbye to Love RPO style - making it even bigger.

    Overture (WITHOUT chorale - oh please lord)
    Only Yesterday
    All You Get From Love
    You're The One
    Bless The Beasts
    Crystal Lullaby
    One More Time
    Let Me Be The One
    Make Believe Its Your First Time
    Those Good Old Dreams
    I Wont Last A Day
    Ordinary Fool
    Where Do I Go From Here?
    A Song For You
    Calling Occupants

    Other tracks that could work: Jambalaya, Road Ode, Uninvited Guest, Little Alter Boy, All Of My Life, Love Me For What I Am, Maybe Its You, If I Had You, When Its Gone.
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  4. Jamesj75

    Jamesj75 Well-Known Member

    I am also in the camp of thoroughly enjoying the RPO project and optimistically hoping for a Volume 2! Here are my picks for inclusion in such a project, mostly a wish list rather than prognostication.

    Already produced:
    Those Good Old Dreams

    It's Going to Take Some Time
    I Won't Last a Day Without You
    Only Yesterday
    There's a Kind of Hush (All Over the World)
    All You Get From Love Is a Love Song
    Sweet Sweet Smile
    Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft

    Album cuts:
    All of My Life
    Let Me Be the One
    One Love
    A Song for You
    One More Time
    Two Sides
    Sailing on the Tide
    You're the One
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  5. Can I have it now please?

    01. Overture - ending in Only Yesterday
    02. Only Yesterday
    03. All You Get From Love Is A Love Song
    04. Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore
    05. Jambalaya
    06. Sweet Sweet Smile
    07. Those Good Old Dreams
    08. I Won't Last A Day Without You
    09. Sing
    10. Santa Claus Is Coming To Town
    11. Solitaire
    12. There's A Kind Of Hush
    13. It's Going To Take Some Time
    14. A Song For You
    15. Let Me Be The One
    16. Bless The Beasts And Children
    17. Desperado
    18. Look To Your Dreams
    19. Calling Occupants
    20. Something's Missing (bonus)
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  6. A track nobody's mentioned and one that Karen wanted to re-record: Someday.
  7. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    I would love to hear an RPO version of Someday. It’s a beautiful track and I can only imagine how great a ‘new’ version would sound.

    Me too! :)

    Yes! :D:goodie:
  8. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    One of the interludes on RPO1features “Someday”. Also did Karen ever re-record a new lead for it, aside from the 1980 medley snippet? From what Richard said in “From The Top”, Karen wanted to do a new recording sometime because her 1969 vocal was distorted due to the cold she had at the time, but they only ever got around to recording the snippet for the medley.
  9. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    Karen never recorded a full new lead vocal for the song in 1980. The distortion wasn’t on the lead vocal but on the orchestra track. I don’t think Richard has successfully found a way to get rid of that, otherwise it would probably have been a strong contender for a remix.
  10. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    No, she had a little bit of distortion, but not in the electronic sense. It was from her nasal passages being blocked due to the cold, and she wasn't able to get those high notes without her voice naturally distorting and that was the reason that they had wanted to re-record the track at some point.
  11. John Adam

    John Adam Well-Known Member

    This playlist I've been listening to for a few months. I call it RPO Fantasy Album II. It's some more of the "hits" and a speckling of well known album tracks. I also have a more "adventurous" list, but this one has a better chance of realization. IMHO. :)

    Overture/Without A Song (ATGB version)
    Trying To Get The Feeling Again
    A Song For You
    Nowhere Man (original '67 version)
    Make Believe It's Your First Time (KC version)
    Maybe It's You
    Ordinary Fool
    Only Yesterday
    If I Had You (Lovelines version)
    Sing (Canta-Spanish lyric)
    Let Me Be The One
    Where Do I Go From Here?
    All You Get From Love Is A Love Song
    It's Going To Take Some Time
    I Won't Last A Day Without You
    Calling Occupants (An edited intro longer version)
    There's A Kind Of Hush (All Over The World)
    Those Good Old Dreams

    If there had to be a holiday selection, "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" is a pop/holiday classic.
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  12. Hopefully Richard can remove the page-turn on Tryin’ To Get The Feeling. I love that song.
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  13. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Love that page-turn! Reminds us that she's ONLY singing a "work lead". One can only imagine what the finished product would've sounded like as intended.
  14. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    This is a great list :) Of course, now I’m intrigued as to your more adventurous one, too! :D
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  15. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Call me a purist.
    I do not desire for anything else to be "removed" from any Carpenters' recording.
    In other words, keep that "page being turned" on Karen's vocal work-lead for the song
    Trying To Get The Feeling Again.
    As for an RPO #2....if it isn't a total "re-creation," or re-imagining , of the arrangements,
    I fail to see how my interest could be reignited. I do not need another compilation of hits,
    and a compilation of album cuts will not get more promotion than what we have already gotten....
    so, I am out this time around.
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  16. newvillefan

    newvillefan I Know My First Name Is Stephen

    If Richard hadn’t left it in, we would never have known it was there in the first place. It’s like the opposite of Goodbye To Love. He put the breath back in years later.
  17. John Adam

    John Adam Well-Known Member

    So @AnnaSock, this is the "way-er out" version of my Fantasy RPO Album II.:D

    1) Overture (Imagination required)
    2) A Song For You
    3) Honolulu City Lights
    4) Kiss Me The Way You Did Last Night
    5) I Won't Last A Day Without You
    6) It's Really You (KC Demo - Re-imagined)
    7) California Dreamin'
    8) Don't Be Afraid (demo "From The Top")
    9) You'll Love Me
    10) Let Me Be The One
    11) Only Yesterday
    12) Maybe It's You
    13) Ordinary Fool
    14) Little Girl Blue
    15) Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore
    16) Something's Missing (KC Demo - Re-imagined)
    17) All You Get From Love Is A Love Song
    18) Those Good Old Dreams
    19) I Need To Be In Love (Using solo vocal from 1978) *
    20) Calling Occupants/Epilogue (additional imagination required)

    Many of these are short songs, so it would leave Richard plenty of space for additional orchestration.
    Yes, it would leave out more "hits." RPO III needs some material. :)
    * This version deserves to be heard even though it's on an RPO album already. (It's my fantasy, right?)
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  18. AnnaSock

    AnnaSock Active Member

    Thanks for sharing. I love this! It includes several of my favourite tracks. I was going to list them then I realised it’s pretty much all of them haha.

    The 1978 vocal of I Need To Be In Love is superb :love:
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  19. John Adam

    John Adam Well-Known Member

    Thanks Anna!
    Repeating songs is probably taboo but since this was Karen's favorite, or at least, favorite Carpenter/Bettis song, it really deserves an RPO arrangement to compliment that magnificent vocal. Hint. Hint. :)
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  20. ullalume

    ullalume Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Just been looking at some of the sales of previous RPO collaborations and unfortunately it seems this album might not have performed well enough to warrant a part 2. We've got a peak position of No. 8 with 11 weeks in the top 100 (so far) which is comparable to the Buddy Holly album (no sequel). Roy Orbison, who got a second album, reached No 2 with 24 weeks in the chart.

    Probably time for this fan to get his expectations back down to earth.

    P.S. Carpenters did about as well as the Beach Boys collaboration which came out in June of last year. . .so if BB get a new release this Summer there's still hopes for our Xmas duo.

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