Shadowboro
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Greetings! My name is Alexandru, I'm from Romania and I've been a fan of the Carpenters since the first time I saw the video for 'Please, Mr. Postman' on VH1 back in the mid 90's. I've been a lurker on this forum for the past couple of years and although I usually visit at least once a week or so and trying to keep up on the various ongoing discussions here - I've been putting off actually registering and participating in these threads; but since I now have a question that the knowledgeable Carpenter fans on this forum might be able to answer I decided to finally register.
Anyway, over the past year I've been slowly but surely falling in love with Patti Page's voice (well, with Patti in general not just with her voice but her stage presence, class and beautiful eyes) after watching videos of her on YT. I decided I wanted to explore more of her music than what was available on YT and bought a couple of albums in physical format (CD).
In the liner notes (written by Robert Nickora) for the Patti Page 4CD collection 'Near To You' published by Jasmine Records, one sentence in particular caught my attention : 'The Carpenters spoke of Patti's influence in Karen's own singing, singling out her recording of 'You Belong To Me' as inspiration and a personal favorite.'
I was wondering if any of you could confirm if either Richard or Karen ever spoke about Patti Page (as an influence or otherwise). I know that sometimes publishers, producers, record executives or even artists themselves like to drum up hype for an album/song/artist by name dropping a famous artist as a sort of endorsement or assurance of quality when it turns out the artist mentioned had not made such comments or praise. I would be disappointed to find out this was the case here and that the author of the liner notes simply name dropped the Carpenters (and Karen in particular) simply to validate an artist like Patti Page who in my opinion requires no such thing and has more than earned the right to be remembered as one of the greatest voices in music history.
I recall reading a topic on this forum a couple of years back about what music and artists Karen listened to and admired but the only artists I recall being mentioned were Patsy Cline, Billy Joel (something about her enjoying the energy on his records if I recall correctly) and the obvious huge influence of Buddy Rich. Then again it's been a long time since I've read that thread and I've probably forgotten most of it by now. Maybe it was Richard and not Karen who mentioned Patti? I doubt either of them ever met Patti in person but I could be wrong.
Anyway, it would please me greatly if the liner notes were correct and there was mutual respect between the Carpenters and Patti Page (at least I hope it was mutual, to be honest I have no idea if Patti Page ever spoke about the Carpenters or mentioned them in any way). As far as Karen being influenced by Patti's singing goes, I can say I do find some similarities (they both shared contralto as vocal range and Patti could go pretty low herself when she wanted to, even though I'd still have to give the edge to Karen on this particular contest). Still, if I think my (admittedly limited) knowledge of female voices of the 50's-70's would find Patti Page's voice to have more in common with Ella Fitzgerald's voice than Karen's.
Thanks for 'hearing me out' so to speak and hopefully someone here will be able to shed some light on this question that has bugged me ever since I read those liner notes!
P.S. : I would also like to express my heartfelt thanks to the administrators of this forum which has been a constant source of information regarding the Carpenters for me and I think it is such a wonderful vehicle for fans to come together in celebration of the Carpenters and their music! Thank you!
P.S. no.2 : Sorry if I have used words improperly or failed to make sense occasionally. English is not my native language.
Anyway, over the past year I've been slowly but surely falling in love with Patti Page's voice (well, with Patti in general not just with her voice but her stage presence, class and beautiful eyes) after watching videos of her on YT. I decided I wanted to explore more of her music than what was available on YT and bought a couple of albums in physical format (CD).
In the liner notes (written by Robert Nickora) for the Patti Page 4CD collection 'Near To You' published by Jasmine Records, one sentence in particular caught my attention : 'The Carpenters spoke of Patti's influence in Karen's own singing, singling out her recording of 'You Belong To Me' as inspiration and a personal favorite.'
I was wondering if any of you could confirm if either Richard or Karen ever spoke about Patti Page (as an influence or otherwise). I know that sometimes publishers, producers, record executives or even artists themselves like to drum up hype for an album/song/artist by name dropping a famous artist as a sort of endorsement or assurance of quality when it turns out the artist mentioned had not made such comments or praise. I would be disappointed to find out this was the case here and that the author of the liner notes simply name dropped the Carpenters (and Karen in particular) simply to validate an artist like Patti Page who in my opinion requires no such thing and has more than earned the right to be remembered as one of the greatest voices in music history.
I recall reading a topic on this forum a couple of years back about what music and artists Karen listened to and admired but the only artists I recall being mentioned were Patsy Cline, Billy Joel (something about her enjoying the energy on his records if I recall correctly) and the obvious huge influence of Buddy Rich. Then again it's been a long time since I've read that thread and I've probably forgotten most of it by now. Maybe it was Richard and not Karen who mentioned Patti? I doubt either of them ever met Patti in person but I could be wrong.
Anyway, it would please me greatly if the liner notes were correct and there was mutual respect between the Carpenters and Patti Page (at least I hope it was mutual, to be honest I have no idea if Patti Page ever spoke about the Carpenters or mentioned them in any way). As far as Karen being influenced by Patti's singing goes, I can say I do find some similarities (they both shared contralto as vocal range and Patti could go pretty low herself when she wanted to, even though I'd still have to give the edge to Karen on this particular contest). Still, if I think my (admittedly limited) knowledge of female voices of the 50's-70's would find Patti Page's voice to have more in common with Ella Fitzgerald's voice than Karen's.
Thanks for 'hearing me out' so to speak and hopefully someone here will be able to shed some light on this question that has bugged me ever since I read those liner notes!
P.S. : I would also like to express my heartfelt thanks to the administrators of this forum which has been a constant source of information regarding the Carpenters for me and I think it is such a wonderful vehicle for fans to come together in celebration of the Carpenters and their music! Thank you!
P.S. no.2 : Sorry if I have used words improperly or failed to make sense occasionally. English is not my native language.