Kacfan
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All these years later, to hear Karen sing a new line, still brings me to tears . Thank you and I love this forum!
Rarest Carpenters Physical Single
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All these years later, to hear Karen sing a new line, still brings me to tears . Thank you and I love this forum!
Billy Rees
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I can't see anything on the cover or label that says it's in mono... If I open it in GoldWave then it's on 2 channels, so I assume that's stereo?
Anyway, here's a link to the wav file...
If I understand the way singles were manufactured in Mexico, and based on the files you've posted, I'd say it's mono. You'll always get two channels in software, but they should both be largely equal.
What's interesting is that the track that was put on FROM THE TOP is in stereo. I still don't understand the fly-in of English on that one, so I guess it will remain one of the many Carpenters mysteries.
Anyway, thanks for the uploads. They're both way better than the old YouTube posting.
What's interesting is that the track that was put on FROM THE TOP is in stereo. I still don't understand the fly-in of English on that one, so I guess it will remain one of the many Carpenters mysteries.
Anyway, thanks for the uploads. They're both way better than the old YouTube posting.
Another Son
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What about one of the Richard solo singles? There was a song that got quite a bit of airplay on my local radio station after ‘Time’ was released - ‘Calling Your Name Again’ - ‘I’m Still Not Over You’ - I can’t remember which one, now. I know CYNA was a single in some territories - maybe ISNOY might have been, too.
adamj95
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Anyone own a copy of "Don't Cry for Me Argentina/Calling Occupants"? I've never seen this one for sale.
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Carpenters - Don't Cry For Me Argentina (From The Opera "Evita")
7" Single on 45cat: Carpenters - Don't Cry For Me Argentina (From The Opera "Evita") / Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognized Anthem Of World Contact Day) - A&M Forget Me Nots - USA - 8629-S
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Billy Rees
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There was one on ebay a few weeks ago for $30. I just missed out on it!
adamj95
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Can’t believe i missed it. I have alerts for most of the rarer ones if one pops up.
There was one on ebay a few weeks ago for $30. I just missed out on it!
Lynda
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Wow lovely!
Jorge
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Which is the line you need info about?
Isn’t it “Canta, canta una canción?”
newvillefan
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Karen’s pronunciation of that line is slightly clipped to fit in all the syllables. So it becomes “cant’ una cancíon”.
Right! I was just writing it out, assuming this is what Harry was referring to?!?
Jorge
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The whole song sounds pretty terrible. I still love it because it is Karen, singing in my native language. But even though the pronunciation is not that great, I feel the biggest error of that recording was the literal translation they did of the lyrics. The words do not match the journey of the song. I am just a fan, and I don't know how to express the technical music term for this, but it does not sound natural.
Now if you ask me, the Japanese version sounds awesome. Maybe our Japanese fellow fans have different thoughts.
If there are any Abba fans here, they did great Spanish versions of several of their songs, and their pronunciation was surprisingly on point.
Jorge
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Grammatically - as written - it is correct. It does sound bad with the timing/music, even if a native speaker tries to put so many words in those few seconds.
Jorge
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"Qué importa si no es tan buena para todos los demás" would probably had been a shorter way to say it and maybe fit better. Of course there are many other options. That is the first thing that came to my mind (It doesn't matter if that it's not good enough for everybody else"
newvillefan
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The Spanish translated lyric of ‘Sing’ is terrible and left Karen with a mouthful of clunky lyrics to try and get into every line. Buddy and Mary McCluskey were drafted in to handle the translations on ABBA’s 1980 Spanish album ‘Gracias Por La Música’ and did a fine job, with vocal coaching by Spanish journalist Ana Martinez del Valle on the pronunciation. I’m guessing Karen had no such help. I wonder who was responsible for the translation of ‘Sing’? (Let’s hope it wasn’t the McCluskeys
).A little known fact is that Benny and Bjorn didn’t contribute a single vocal to the recording of the Spanish album. Wherever male vocals were required, the girls covered these themselves, a testament to their amazing abilities. From Carl Magnus Palm’s ‘Bright Lights, Dark Shadows’:
“Björn and Benny were not too keen on the project, but said that if Agnetha and Frida were prepared to re-record all their vocals, and Michael [Tretow] was willing to produce it, they had no objections […] “I must admit that I have never ever listened to the Spanish album, except to OK it when it was finished,” Benny said later.
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I wondered if Karen pronounced all of the words correctly enough - or made some sort of error. I guess we'll never find out why it was replaced on FROM THE TOP.
Jorge
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You can't cut the word "preocupes" the way she did (for sake of the melody). Or put an accent to the PREocupes word at the beginning. The word has an "invisible" accent in a different part : preoCUpes.
