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RCA Sessions

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Simon KC1950, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. Simon KC1950

    Simon KC1950 Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    As we know before the Carpenters were The Carpenters they had a brief record deal with RCA Records. As the Richard Carpenter Trio.

    I believe they cut something like 9 sides. I'm not sure if most of it has been heard before. I've got digital copies saved:Frank Sinatra's "Strangers In The Night", The Beatles "Every Little Thing" and Richard Carpenter's "Iced Tea"

    Do we know the names of any others? Perhaps "The Girl From Ipanema"

    Could these ever see an official release?
  2. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    A 1966 recording of “Iced Tea” was released on the box set already so I don’t think we’ll see another. The recording of “The Girl From Ipanema” from 1966 also exists but curiously hasn’t been released, except partially in the TV movie. The time and place to release the others was probably also that first box set. I very much doubt we’ll see another so I can’t really see any other vehicle for the others to be included, as they’re curiosities only.

    Here’s a cool interview with the duo about “The Girl From Ipanema” that some may not have heard:

  3. Rumbahbah

    Rumbahbah Well-Known Member

    Is that interview from their 1981 trip to Brazil? If so, then it's a real eye (or ear)-opener to hear them able to switch into singing something so alive and different from the music they were promoting at the time. If only they'd been arranging songs and performing them in 1981 like they did in this interview!
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  4. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Yes that’s from the MIA promotional trip to Brazil in late 1981. I agree, they could shift from general conversation to humming and tapping their way through “The Girl From Ipanema”, including all the exotic time signatures it involved :)
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  5. Guitarmutt

    Guitarmutt Active Member

    I have their live version, and this impromptu explanation/version is great. Brought a smile to my face. I think that they should have kept more of this adventurousness in their music. It's just so much fun.
  6. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    With the RCA stuff, I have to wonder if the original master tapes still exist—-which is highly unlikely as Richard notes in “From The Top” that ‘Iced Tea’ was transferred from a ‘tired, acetate reference disc’.

    Of course, from the same time period, you have to wonder what tracks were recorded at “Orange County”. Apparently there were 9 tracks, and “You’ll Love Me” is one of them. And, apparently the tapes still exist, as Richard made no mention of having to transfer it from acetate.
  7. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I do believe You’ll Love Me is from the original master tape. You can also hear the difference in quality between that and the preceding track The Parting Of Our Ways, which was not.
  8. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Actually the preceding track was “Iced Tea”; Parting was from the Magic Lamp era.

    But it would be interesting to see what tracks were done at Orange.
  9. Tom, sweetie, Orange County is not a recording studio. It's where the Carpenters lived. It's where Joe Osborne's garage studio was. It's where Disneyland is. It's just a county south of Los Angeles. Please stop referring to it like it's some mystical recording studio.
  10. arthowson

    arthowson Active Member

    I think Karen might have appreciated the term; "The Orange County Sessions." She liked to play with word meaning.
  11. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Uh... in the liner notes Richard calls it Orange County studio. And he says that it was a new studio (and Parting was not licensed from Joe Osborn or RCA).
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  12. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    No...he doesn't. He says, and I quote,
    The recording studio was United Audio, and it was located in Orange County, California.
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  13. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    I think it was on Tustin Ave. around Katella if I'm not mistaken.
  14. jaysee

    jaysee New Member

    I recall it was a little closer to the beachon Grand Ave. near Edinger, I believe.
  15. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Geography lesson: Downey (Newville Ave) is in Los Angeles County. Karen's condo was in Century City which is LA County. As I recall, Joe Osborn's garage studio was in the San Fernando Valley within the city of Los Angeles which is obviously Los Angeles County. Disneyland is in City of Anaheim which is located in Orange County. Karen, after she married the jerk, might have lived partially in Newport Beach considering she was involved with 2 homes there (one on Lido Isle that she purchased) and a Tom Burris home in the same city somewhere (I believe it was on Pacific Coast Hwy on Newport Bay), which is in Orange County. Grand Ave & Edinger Ave is in the city of Santa Ana. Tustin Ave & Katella Ave meet in the city of Orange. All Orange County.

    Reference: Thomas Guide Updated 1986 Edition Los Angeles/Orange Counties Street Atlas and Directory (hard copy) :).
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  16. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    November 1984,Fan Club Newsletter #82:
    Q: "Does Richard plan to release the songs he and Karen recorded on the RCA or Magic Lamp Label ?
    A: "No"
    Q: Will Karen's solo album ever be released ?
    A: "No"
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  17. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    The girl playing the voice of the newsletters in the 1996 BBC documentary read that line out. Thankfully times changed in the intervening years.
  18. Thank you! It was driving me crazy!

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