Classic AOTW Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - FOOL ON THE HILL SP-4160

What is your favorite track?

  • Fool On The Hill

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Festa

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Casa Forte

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Canto Triste

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Upa, Neguinho

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Lapinha

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Scarborough Fair

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • When Summer Turns To Snow

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Laia Ladaia (Reza)

    Votes: 5 19.2%

  • Total voters
    26

Rudy

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I do have two extra copies on CD. One is the Verve release and the other is a Japanese import from before the Verve releases on CD.
I also have a few copies of the lp as well.
A&M I believe released this at some point in the mid to late 80s, and I never did grab a copy of that one. When I saw the Rebound reissue, I grabbed it. And later when a third version came along, I picked that one up also, hoping for better sound (it wasn't any different that I could tell), and better packaging than the generic Rebound packaging. I have one LP copy of it that is in fine condition, so I haven't been pressed to upgrade it at all.

Since it is so simple now to remove the CSG processing (a 90° phase shift on one channel corrects the problem), I don't know why they haven't reissued it yet that way.
 

Harry

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I had a similar pattern in buying FOOL ON THE HILL copies.

First of course was the original pressing LP, SPX 4160 with the gatefold. Sometime later, I think I picked up a non-gatefold issue just to update the semi-worn vinyl.

When CDs came along, I jumped at CD 3108 which looks like it was issued in 1988 in the big A&M album issuing at that time. It sounded OK, but a little on the muddy side, probably mostly caused by the CSG processing, so it was a little disappointing in that respect.

When I logged onto A&M Corner, there were old discussions about whether the PolyGram Rebound re-issue that was out there was better or worse than CD 3108. I found one cheap and did some comparisons, hearing absolutely no difference between the two. The Rebound issue was dated 1995 and had a catalog number of 314 520 296-2.

Next up was a Japanese release, UICY 3704 that looks like it was issued around 2002. This one has an obi that states that it had "Rubidium Atomic Clock Mastering" an 24-bit. But it still had CSG, and it still sounds muddier than other B66 discs.

Thus far, none of the CDs had any packaging like the gatefold with its controversial rear cover.

Then came the Verve digipak in 2004, and this one DID have the gatefold cover, plus an insert with all of the interior pictures, but in black & white, not color like the original gatefold. Verve B0002691-02. CSG was still there, and it still sounded a bit muddy. If I had to pick one of these, I think the Verve is probably the best, but the edge is very, very slight.

Then our leader Rudy figured a way to defeat the CSG processing, rendering all of the above CDs pretty much null and void as far as I'm concerned.

Sometime in the past couple of years, I've finally located a mono copy of the album. One of the reasons I wanted that is that mono, by definition, wouldn't be plagued with CSG processing, and it could be the definitive version of the album in that respect. It's a close toss-up between the de-CSG tracks and the mono tracks. The mono album came in two different iterations apparently. Some were given a catalog number of LPX-4160 printed on the cover. Then there's the issue I have with LPX-160 on the white promo label, but it came in a standard SPX-4160 cover with a "PROMOTIONAL COPY monaural NOT FOR SALE" sticker.

That's all of my copies of the album, but there's one additional item of interest that I found. It's a 45 of "Fool On The Hill" as a white-label promo with a catalog number of 961-S. It's stereo, and DOES NOT have the CSG processing applied. Since finding that, I've wondered if perhaps "Scarborough Fair" might've gotten the same treatment, but haven't seen any signs so far. Unfortunately, "Fool On The Hill's" b-side was "So Many Stars", a song easily obtainable without CSG.
 
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