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Official Review [Single]: 25. "SWEET, SWEET SMILE"/"I HAVE YOU" (2008-S)

Which side is your favorite?

  • Side A: "Sweet, Sweet Smile"

    Votes: 31 81.6%
  • Side B: "I Have You"

    Votes: 7 18.4%

  • Total voters
    38

GaryAlan

Well-Known Member
Nice to see a pic of that extremely rare Carpenters Collection promo.
So, what happened to 2000 pressings ? Where are they ?
Are these vinyl promos rotting in a storage bin, or were they simply discarded in 1978 ?
I have never seen a copy offered for sale.
Knowing that Richard Carpenter did not create the "playful fiddle/banjo arrangement," (BBM interview),
perhaps that explains why he is not explicitly 'credited' on the vinyl promo as "arranger/orchestrator".
(So, too, with Jambalaya--Richard is not credited; the other two songs do credit him for such duties.)
 

ars nova

Active Member
Nice to see a pic of that extremely rare Carpenters Collection promo.
So, what happened to 2000 pressings ? Where are they ?
Are these vinyl promos rotting in a storage bin, or were they simply discarded in 1978 ?
I have never seen a copy offered for sale.
Knowing that Richard Carpenter did not create the "playful fiddle/banjo arrangement," (BBM interview),
perhaps that explains why he is not explicitly 'credited' on the vinyl promo as "arranger/orchestrator".
(So, too, with Jambalaya--Richard is not credited; the other two songs do credit him for such duties.)
he neither gave it its playful fiddle- and -banjo arrangement nor picked it as the single with the
thought of its crossing over."

this doesn't indicate he didn't create it, it indicates he did not specifically attempt to cross chart boundaries.
 

John Adam

Well-Known Member
Nice to see a pic of that extremely rare Carpenters Collection promo.
So, what happened to 2000 pressings ? Where are they ?
Are these vinyl promos rotting in a storage bin, or were they simply discarded in 1978 ?
I have never seen a copy offered for sale.
I have a copy of this promo 7". Does anyone else besides Harry have one of these? I think I got it in the 1990's from a vendor that advertised in "Goldmine." Pre-Internet.
 

Harry

Charter A&M Corner Member
Staff member
Moderator
I don't have it. All I have is the pictures that someone sent to me years ago to post on the forum.
 

GaryAlan

Well-Known Member
Ars Nova, is correct in the interpretation of the emboldened quote above (my post #52),
Richard did not see the chart potential of "crossing over chart boundaries," (i.e., pop to country charts).
As Richard says, "Karen found that one." (Reader's Digest Liner Notes).
I do remind folks of this--quoting Carpenters' Fan Club Newsletter:
"many of you have requested that Sweet, Sweet Smile be released as a single,
by the time you read this Newsletter #57 (Jan 1978) it should be in your music store."
I also note that the interview (Billboard Mag above) reminds us that
Richard Carpenter did not "give it its playful fiddle & banjo arrangement."
That was news to me---after all these years.
 

newvillefan

I Know My First Name Is Stephen
I also note that the interview (Billboard Mag above) reminds us that Richard Carpenter did not "give it its playful fiddle & banjo arrangement." That was news to me---after all these years.
I also didn’t know this but it doesn’t surprise me. He wrote and arranged a few songs with a country lilt such as Top Of The World but this is not his arranging style at all. Maybe that’s the reason for my aversion to it.
 

Mark-T

Well-Known Member
This song and B'wana immediately caught my ear upon first listen. Her lead vocal on B'wana is terrific! And the harmonies on SSS are great. Both are underrated IMHO.
 
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Brian

Well-Known Member
As often noted here, we all have our different preferences. I don’t particularly like ‘Sweet, Sweet Smile’, either, (like a couple of others who have posted). It would be one of my least favourite singles. I would have had to have chosen the ‘B’ side as my favourite side, except that ‘I Have You’ is such a weak composition, especially lyrically, (but melody-wise, as well), and Karen gives it such a lack-lustre performances. Although I don’t really like the way she sounds on ‘Sweet, Sweet Smile’, (a little harsh in tone, in places), at least she sounds invested in the song and as if she’s not singing in her sleep, (unlike the ‘B’ side). The fiddle, banjo and piano also gives it life. I must say that Karen does put her own stamp on the song, though, interpreting it in quite a unique way.

I remember that the host of the American Country Top 40 radio program erroneously announced, when it was a hit, that Karen played fiddle on the recording. Another week, he also announced that when older bullies would pick on Richard at school, Karen would chase them away. Reminds me of what Herb Alpert later said - “This woman was no push-over”.

Believe it or not, when my class was given the chance to vote on songs that could be chosen for a 1979 school disco, I suggested ‘Sweet, Sweet Smile’. Needless to say, the suggestion was rejected. :)Now I much prefer the songs that were chosen, and I can remember some of them - Kiss’ ‘I Was Made For Loving You’, Rod Stewart’s ‘Do Ya Think I’m Sexy?’, Amii Stewart’s ‘Knock On Wood’, Wings’ ‘Goodnight Tonight’, Patrick Hernandez’ ‘Born To BeAlive’ - all much stronger and memorable recordings than ‘Sweet, Sweet Smile’ any way you look at it, I believe, disco or no disco.
 

Jarred

Well-Known Member
One of the things that hurts the A-side is that Karen’s vocal isn’t clear and single tracked, she sounds like she does kind of on Back in My life Again (which I actually like more) - there’s a muffled distance to her voice that’s annoying. Not a favorite of mine but I do enjoy hearing it even if it doesn’t quite satisfy me like some of their other uptempo songs like Postman.

I Have You is lush and pretty but epitomizes the soul of blandness that characterizes the majority of the album. Could be a sleep aid, Karen herself sounds like she’d rather be doing anything else. Horizon wore them out.
 
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