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Official Review [Single]: 8. "HURTING EACH OTHER"/"MAYBE IT'S YOU" (1322-S)

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Chris May, Jun 1, 2016.

Which side is your favorite?


    31 vote(s)
  2. Side B: "MAYBE IT'S YOU"

    2 vote(s)
  1. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^That makes sense !
    But, if you look at the time on each song on the LP (18:10 Time, Side One)
    and compare to the remastered classics cd (18:06 Total, "Side" One)
    the times still go astray somehow (1:59 for Love Is Surrender, same time on both versions).
  2. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Maybe It's You,
    I have compared the 45-Japanese Vinyl Pressing (I do not have the USA Single)
    to the Close To You LP,
    it seems as if the 'cut' for the Japan single is a re-recorded piano intro.
    Hopefully, another set of ears can clear this one up for me !
  3. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    Isn't the study of CarpenterS a kick? How many glorious hours I've spent delving deeper into all aspects of productions. Gary Alan and countless others here have tech fever for K and R. I like that!
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  4. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Thanks for bringing this thread to the spotlight once again, it was overlooked by me but now I get to vote...Side A for me. Love Maybe It's You, but not a hard choice. Hurting...one of their big hits from that incredible roll they were on the first half of the decade. A great pop song, fit Top 40 radio perfectly. Wonderful lead vocal from Karen with a memorable hook. The video was awesome too.

    But, I too have been "duped", it's not "ocean king"?! All this time..."Ocean King" fits in perfectly with the follow-up lyrics; "walks along the waves of velveteen, his only thought is love for me..." How does "ocean came" make sense? My whole visual of this song is now messed-up.
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  5. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    Maybe anticipating the ocean approaching your toes in the sand. That's my imagery.
  6. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    I always saw these lines as two different perspectives. "Rising on the shore, the ocean came." Then, after this observation, we return to the narrator with "Walks [being a noun, not a verb] along the waves of velveteen... his [the gentleman the narrator is walking with] only thought is love for me."
    I can see how it works the other way-- the "ocean king" rises from the shore and walks alongside it, hoping for love between the narrator and the other person.
  7. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    It is amusing....even with a song such as
    Maybe It's You
    (which, heretofore, I have largely ignored),
    once I spin the 45-Vinyl and then begin listening to all of the extent compilations,
    Albums,Cd's...and such...I acquire an entirely new--and different--perspective
    of one 'little' song. So, as with yesterday I only listened to various versions of
    the exact same song--Maybe It's You--nothing else, just one song.

    But, I surely appreciate this song ever so much more !
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  8. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    I went to a Carpenters tribute band concert last week, and their performance of "Hurting Each Other", both at the show and on their CD, intrigued me. They ended it with a cold stop, a la "If I Had You"-- the line "Can't we stop" right after the last "breaking each other's hearts, tearing each other apart". It left enough of an impression on me to wonder what it would have been like if the Carpenters had done it originally.
  9. David A

    David A Active Member

    Agreed, I love it when I see older threads like this go active and I have an opportunity to participate in a current context.

    Hurting Each Other has always been a favorite of mine. I really enjoy reading comments from those who are musical, concerning things like delineating how a particular chord is constructed, etc - often times it explains in technical terms why I loved something about the song but didn't know "what" it was that grabbed me (in this case, that amazing "STOP" chord, as explained by Harry and Chris); when listening to this song, I feel a pleasant tension build, waiting for that chord sound like a sweet little bump of Dopamine :wink:

    It also helps me better understand and appreciate the talent and effort that went into the construction of their songs, and why those who reflexively dismiss the C's as "pop pablum" have their heads firmly ensconced in their...

    _I_ hear "ocean came" and that makes sense to me. "King"...is she singing about Poseidon? "Ocean king" sounds like an outboard motor model. Hah! :laugh:
  10. [Fixed my video link in post #18]
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  11. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    First I have heard this version. Seems Karen's "basement" voice is a little more pronounced on this recording. More depth. I like it!
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