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The Carpenters on BBC4 29th April

Martin Medrano

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This is my first thread post here

I just saw that bbc4 will be airing The Carpenters a world in music on Friday 29th April at 9pm. It’s a performance of a concert recorded in 1976
Can you share for all of us who can't see it?
 

New Horizons.

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It would appear to be the New London theatre concert looking at the Sky information box.
The picture should hopefully be good as BBC 4 is a HD channel on Sky at least.
It's also repeated at 0150 Saturday morning.
BBC must be going through their music archives as recently they have shown the Dusty Springfield series also a John Denver concert from 1976 and have a Johnny Mathis 1974 show on Friday evening from 1974. I did see the old Petula 70's series a few months back also.
 
Should be at least a slight improvement on previous versions. Hopefully someone can get the iPlayer version to MP4 and post here? Many thanks
 

Nicko

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It would appear to be the New London theatre concert looking at the Sky information box.
The picture should hopefully be good as BBC 4 is a HD channel on Sky at least.
It's also repeated at 0150 Saturday morning.
BBC must be going through their music archives as recently they have shown the Dusty Springfield series also a John Denver concert from 1976 and have a Johnny Mathis 1974 show on Friday evening from 1974. I did see the old Petula 70's series a few months back also.
They have also shown Shirley Bassey's series from the 1970's too recently.
 

Sue

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I recorded this, it was lovely to watch. I think there was a little more at the end than o have seen in the past? Even though I loved it, I still prefer the 1974 Budakan Concert. Mainly because it was whole songs and beautifully sung. If I could work out how to share London paladium I will happily share.
 

Chris Mills

That was funny....like the dark vomited up
I recorded this, it was lovely to watch. I think there was a little more at the end than o have seen in the past? Even though I loved it, I still prefer the 1974 Budakan Concert. Mainly because it was whole songs and beautifully sung. If I could work out how to share London paladium I will happily share.
Thanks to Billy Rees for sharing this concert.

 

Portlander

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I've always wondered if this was the complete concert, 46 minutes is very short. Was there an oldies portion that was left out? Cannot fathom why Richard would not have included his own "Yesterday Once More" in the set list and I'm also surprised that there was not an encore similar to their Japan tour in 1974.
 

Tom_P

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I've always wondered if this was the complete concert, 46 minutes is very short. Was there an oldies portion that was left out? Cannot fathom why Richard would not have included his own "Yesterday Once More" in the set list and I'm also surprised that there was not an encore similar to their Japan tour in 1974.
I suspect this concert was done primarily for the BBC, and TV recordings of concerts in the 70s were rarely complete. After all, if you could see the whole thing at home, why bother buying tickets? [Well I know WE would have! :)] For this reason, there was probably a restriction on how much the BBC could record/transmit. This was just after Carpenters had done their sold-out, 5-day run at the Palladium. I'm not sure why they moved to the New London Theatre for this recorded concert; maybe the technological facilities were better.
 

Portlander

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Another reason I'm curious about the concert length is because the "Live at the Palladium" album is basically the same set list. Only difference is that "Jambalaya" is replaced with "I Need to be in Love" and it's even a few minutes shorter in duration. When I saw the Carpenters live in the summer of 1976 the oldies portion was part of the show which made the concert around an hour long.
 

tomswift2002

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I suspect this concert was done primarily for the BBC, and TV recordings of concerts in the 70s were rarely complete. After all, if you could see the whole thing at home, why bother buying tickets? [Well I know WE would have! :)] For this reason, there was probably a restriction on how much the BBC could record/transmit. This was just after Carpenters had done their sold-out, 5-day run at the Palladium. I'm not sure why they moved to the New London Theatre for this recorded concert; maybe the technological facilities were better.
Also 46 minutes sounds like a 1-hour program with commercial breaks. I’m not sure how many commercial minutes were allowed in the UK in the 70s.
 

tomswift2002

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No commercial breaks allowed on BBC.
Could they have made it for non-BBC broadcast like ITV? Or the masters currently available were made for non-UK markets? Prior to 78 the BBC was notorious for wiping its videotape and destroying its film masters, and as we know from the 1971 concert, foreign masters with alternate language titles burned into the video.
 

Chris Mills

That was funny....like the dark vomited up
Could they have made it for non-BBC broadcast like ITV? Or the masters currently available were made for non-UK markets? Prior to 78 the BBC was notorious for wiping its videotape and destroying its film masters, and as we know from the 1971 concert, foreign masters with alternate language titles burned into the video.
The BBC would have filmed and transmitted the Carpenters for a domestic UK audience. Carpenters were also filmed in concert by the BBC in 1974.

 
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