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"Tryin' to Get the Feeling Again"

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Actorman, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

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    I love that part. The lyrics really don't bother me that much because Karen's reading is so steelar that I can overlook them. Her voice is so Horizon sounding which I love. I was listening today and it took me back to some of Karen's earlier garage tunes when her voice was so raw...I love the vocal cry in certain spots. I could listen to this song over and over.
     
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  2. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    I miss glad it was left off Horizon, though. If anything, that disc needed one more upbeat song.
     
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  3. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    It really did. It's a very ballad-heavy record that would have benefitted from another uptempo tune or two.

    Ed
     
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  4. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    I especially dislike the lines in Barry Manilow's version about him going to the doctor and asking for something to pick him up. The lyrics on his version are clumsy and sound as if an amateur wrote them. Carpenters' version, about the bloodhound and the meditations and poems, has imagery that is charming, even if some sections are a bit 'clunky'. I don't even mind 're-be his lover'.
     
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  5. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting for my CD Single from the UK...come on Mr Postman hurray up already...
     
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  6. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

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    My feelings exactly...I actually like the bloodhound lyric. It's the imagery that allows the listener to define how the song plays out in each persons mind and how the song makes you feel.

    Something that hasn't been mentioned is the use of strings. When the strings come in I always envision Karen center stage and the camera pans to the string section during their brief parts. I really love this song.
     
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  7. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    For me, I like both sets. Manilow did originally record the "meditation and poem" passage but it was cut for time, not because he didn't do it. Of course, Karen's vocal is far better than Barry's so that sells it nicely. Both productions are good, IMO.

    Ed
     
  8. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    FL
    I forgot to add...in the liner notes it says because it was a work lead, certain sections of the lead also would have been doubled hence the "effect used in the mix" So if they had decided to re-record this later Karen's lead vocals would have been doubled? That really makes me wonder how much different it would have sounded than what we have in the song.
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    Sounds good the way it is.
     
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  10. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    Hopefully not much at all. I don't like the fake doubling approach Richard used. It just doesn't sound natural at all.

    Ed
     
  11. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    FL
    All I can say is thank goodness for the Karaoke disc....:)
     
  12. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    The "re-be" line makes me laugh. Never had too much of a problem lyric-wise...
     
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  13. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

    "Doctor, my woman is coming back home late today. Could you maybe give me something? Cause the feeling is gone, and I must get it back right away..."

    Why this wasn't used in a Viagra commercial is beyond me! What a wasted opportunity. :D
     
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  14. Jeff

    Jeff Well-Known Member

    It's got HORIZON written all over it mwah!
     
  15. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    Lol
     
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  16. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    We discussed this before and I think there was even another first version written before the writer presented it to the Carpenters to sing. And, was pleasantly surprised when he heard it on Interpretations. Or maybe I read it on a YouTube video. The only lyric I don’t like is the bloodhound reference. It takes the song into a different direction for me so to me it's not an effective simile. It would have been creative to see Karen and Barry blend the perspective of man vs woman happenings of the same situation in a medley of the twin versions.
     
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  17. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

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    I got my UK CD Single of Tryin' To Get The Feeling Again in the mail today. I can confirm that this CD Single is the cleaned up version with the mouth clicks removed.

    Some strange things I still don't understand, I don't have the exact release dates but the UK CD of Interpretations was released in 1994, the UK CD Single also has the dates 1994 both on the CD and inner single jacket. I was always under the impression that CD singles were released just prior to the full CD, if that was the case, why would the CD single contain the cleaned up version (mouth clicks removed) but the UK CD of Interpretations containing "Tryin' To Get The Feeling Again" with the 94' version that contains the mouth clicks intact. 2 different versions were used in the UK on CD.

    As a side note, the moment I got my UK 45 vinyl I was almost certain it also contained the cleaned up version and while it does have some pops and crackles, I'm going to stand by my original belief that the UK 45 vinyl is also the cleaned up version.

    As a side note, I also have the Canadian CD of Interpretations and it contains the 94' version with the mouth clicks intact.
     
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  18. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

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    Harry, is it worth updating the Resouce site for this song title that the UK CD single is the 95 cleaned up version and also that the Canadian CD of Interpretations contains the 94 version of Tryin' with the mouth clicks since you already have the UK CD mentioned.
     
  19. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    I have a UK promo postcard for the 'Trying to Get the Feeling' single.
     
  20. I'll mention something or other, probably later today if I get the chance. Canadian CDs are often interchangeable with their UK counterparts as licensing in the mother country usually serves for all of the UK's territories.
     
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  21. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Not really. In Canada I've seen a lot more licensing handled by the American offices for stuff than the U.K. Office. With the Carpenters the Singles 74-78 and Interpretations albums are anomalies seeing as how Canada will usually get the American releases.

    Even with other stuff, such as books I've seen the UK copyrights say that the UK publisher holds the copyright for the U.K. and Commonwealth, but then there's usually a line saying "except Canada".
     
  22. I yield to @tomswift2002 and his expertise in UK song licensing. I only know of a few examples where Canadian stuff mimicked the UK versions and Carpenters is one of those cases. Herb Alpert too, with his VERY BEST OF HERB ALPERT CD from the early 90s.
     
  23. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

    There are other cases where Canada got the UK version of an album, or got albums which were released in the UK, but not in the US. In the case of the Corrs "In Blue", Canadian CDs had the the UK artwork (red), while the US release had a different cover photo (and blue color scheme). The Corrs "Unplugged" (CD and DVD), was released in Canada and the UK, but not in the US. Canada got the UK version of Kylie Minogue's "Fever" album. The US version had a different cover photo, and bonus tracks. Australian singer Delta Goodrem's debut album "Born To Try", was the same in the UK and Canada. It wasn't released in the US until a year or two later, had different artwork, and a different tracklist.

    What the albums I mentioned have in common, is that they are releases by international artists. In the case of US artists, Canada almost always gets the US version, if the album was released in the US. "Singles 74-78" wasn't released in the US, and neither was "Very Best of Herb Alpert", but A&M's (largely autonomous) Canadian affiliate chose to release them here. If "Interpretations" had been released in the US and UK at the same time, Canada would almost certainly have gotten the US version. But as it was, the UK version came out a year earlier, so Canada went with that.
     
  24. Thank you Murray for refreshing our memories.
     
  25. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    But then there are other times, like the UK release of Gold where Canada (Or I should say we were able to get it, but it was an import, and came with the "Special Import" label from Universal Music on the front cover, just like Live In Japan was a "Special Import") never received that album, instead we waited for 3 years until the 2-CD versions that was released in the US was released. Even the 1969-1981 album had the goofy looking version released here in Canada that was released in the US, and to this day I've never seen the other photo on the disc whenever I've seen it for sale here in Canada. Of course Canada has had its small share of Carpenters releases like the 1978 2-record (and 2 different cover) set The Carpenters Collection (The Carpenters Collection (1978) ) and the late-80's Reminiscing.
     

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