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big noise from chicago said:Sounds like one of my lost weekends. artyhat:
I suppose in the FINAL ANALYSIS, you're probably right......both with Ellis and KennyG...
FINAL ANALYSIS: Was that from Don Ellis @ Fillmore? He was supposed to be the next Kenton, but now he's gone, too. If you've got that LP, it's probably very collectible...and a quick retort on your part, Dan. I'm in very fast company here.
Hey, you know what? The TJB 'live' version I really liked was "Lonely Bull", he upped that tempo too...and no fade out! Or is that another topic?
Funny...I thought the Volume 2 version was in C#, not Db. I don't know how many other listeners feel this way, but I think the key of the song sets a certain mood, beyond tempo and major/minor.
William said:I've never understood that at all. Maybe it's only perceptible to you freaks of nature with perfect pitch.
With regard to "Barcelona" vs. "Presidente," I like them both but I prefer "Barcelona." Maybe the Db key signature has something to do with it, I don't know... but I like the more overtly wistful sound of "Barcelona."
William said:That's interesting, Harry. I hate sharps, or more specifically, I hate playing in sharp keys (on any instrument). I write in flats, I improvise in flats, I think in flats.
Sharps just don't come naturally to me. I can't perceive any difference in the way they sound, though -- and incidentally, my cheap-o turntable plays everything about a quarter-tone flat, so I'm not even hearing my records in their intended key.
But as far as key signatures go, it's all relative to me. For instance, any of the following resolutions would sound the same to my ears
Rudy said:Today I notice, though, that a song written in D major with the 7th added (D, F#, A, C#) still had a melancholic sound to it. ("Ventura Highway" by America.) Maybe it was the added 7th? "America" by Simon & Garfunkel is similar--most of the song is in a major key, but still is a bit melancholic.
Rudy said:Well, THERE goes ten minutes of conversation about perfect pitch!
Rudy said:I grew up with piano since age 5. ...
Maybe you need to pick up a decent Dual (great 'table, and plentiful on eBay)...or at least get one w/ the accessory Grusin filter installed.
... it really bothers me when some recordings play back at a pitch that is halfway between two notes!
Most annoying to me is the Shorty Rogers album The Wizard Of Oz and Other Harold Arlen Songs. It's a terrific album (goes without saying ), but for "We're Off To See The Wizard", it's halfway between the key of A and Bb...and the whole album is recorded that way!
William said:I suppose the duality of that chord may come from the fact that in adding the C# to a D major (for instance), it has the same effect as playing a Dmaj and an F#min at the same time.