I completely agree (social commentary). It's made what would have been a great article just a good one. In fact, I got the feeling that the reporter didn't really "get it;" not that he necessarily had too, but I don't think he "saw" and "felt" what we did. Just my opinion. At least he wasn't taking swipes and was respectful of the attendees he interviewed. Sometimes, the LA Times can be condescending to some.Overall I think the article is pretty good, and it's nice to think that the celebration - and the Carpenters music and legacy - was a significant enough event that it was deserving of an article. I could do without the social commentary (how is it at all related to the Carpenters? ), but then, that seems to be mandatory these days.
I don't see anything wrong with the social commentary -- in fact it wasn't really "commentary," it was just relating the mood of the country at the time. The Carpenters music (like several other A&M acts, especially Herb Alpert) was a bit of an escape from all the negativity. There were plenty of "protest songs" coming out, but he's just pointing out that K&R stayed away from that territory for the most part. That's why the writer says they weren't considered "the voice of a generation." It's not a comment on their talents; it's just saying they were entertainers, not commentators.I could do without the social commentary (how is it at all related to the Carpenters? )
I chose both when we were asked to vote as we could vote for up to two, but in retrospect I’d agree. All of the attractions and sights, save Karen’s resting place (and the warehouse which we didn’t get to see anyway) were in Downey and central LA. The trips back and forth from Thousand Oaks added up to hours on those coaches as the traffic was often a nightmare, time that could have been better spent with hindsight. That said, it was immaculately planned and an adventure I wouldn’t have swapped for the world.Just venting...I wish we had selected Downey as the locale for the 50th. In so many ways it would have been more convenient, relevant, and probably (not sure) less expensive.
Yes to everything you say here, and yes, that's why I voted for T.O. as well. As you say, the trip was amazingly well done and hats off to the organizers. I also missed the group photo.I chose both when we were asked to vote as we could vote for up to two, but in retrospect I’d agree. All of the attractions and sights, save Karen’s resting place (and the warehouse which we didn’t get to see anyway) were in Downey and central LA. The trips back and forth from Thousand Oaks added up to hours on those coaches as the traffic was often a nightmare, time that could have been better spent with hindsight. That said, it was immaculately planned and an adventure I wouldn’t have swapped for the world.
I think Thousand Oaks was chosen partly because of its proximity to Richard’s home in the event he might show up, but as even that LA Times article concluded, he didn’t in the end. That did disappoint me and I left shortly after the panel discussion concluded (as did quite a few other people), only to miss the group photo - which I had no clue was planned.
Got it too. I wonder how much the donation ended up being. Also, I go THIS e-mail, too:If this has already been mentioned, my apologies. Received this email this morning from the 50th anniversary coordinator Greg:
Carpenters 50th Anniversary Celebration <[email protected]>
Oct 3 at 6:58 AM
We are happy to let you know that we were finally able to wrap the event up with a shiny bow and send a donation to the Carpenter Performing Arts Center in the name of the 50th Anniversary Celebration attendees!
Here is the response we received yesterday:
We received the incredibly generous donation from the Carpenters 50th Anniversary Celebration Attendees – wow! Thank you all so very much for this gift, which will go to support our educational arts programming. Please know that we loved having you here when you visited last April – it was truly our pleasure to give you the tour of our theatre and the Carpenter family display. We hope you come back to visit us soon!
With deepest gratitude and kindest regards,
Megan Kline Crockett
Carpenter Performing Arts Center
California State University, Long Beach
Thank you again to everyone who attended the event!
Greg, Robert & Peter
Carpenters 50th Anniversary Celebration Planning Committee
So i tried to look for it what is the post exactly?I got thinking recently of the “Simple Melody” recording and it is still on Facebook. If you’re part of the “Close to the Carpenters” group, in your general title bar search type in “play a simple melody, carpenters” and you’ll find the post from last April.
It’s chilling in more than one way.
That could definitely be a facet of their complex relationship. If so, Streisand’s mother’s stilted relationship with her daughter was in part due to this. Different dynamics but a similar core.I wonder if that is part of the reason that Agnes underplayed Karen’s talent, because she herself can sing a similar way.
Oh of course. A complicated, artistic yin-yang.Not wanting to bring another fuss over producer/arranger/singer, but without Karen, there would have been no vehicle to hear Richard’s music, and without Richard’s influence, Karen may have never recorded. Thankfully, they had each other.