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Rudy

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Don't get overly excited...there's no such animal!

However, replying to Jill's message brought back that idea I had to compile something like a 3- or 4-CD box set of classic ochre-era A&M recordings.

And here I am, warily asking for input on what tracks you think would be important enough to include in a box set of this nature. If it's done in the Rhino fashion, it will have a good cross-section of ALL A&M artists of the era. It would need a couple of obscurities (a track each from the early George McCurn and Dave Lewis LPs), a few big hits (the "Tijuana Taxi" and "Close To You" singles), and other curiosities. I would not go for ultra-rare tracks either--these could be charting singles, or good album tracks that are, more than anything, best representative of what the artist recorded for A&M. I'm also sure there may be one or two rare singles recorded by well-known artists that would be included.

The 19000-series samplers would be a good starting point, as would a numerical list of A&M's albums, which I know a few regulars may be able to peruse for us and see what we've overlooked.

I'd model this along the lines of the Bacharach Box that Rhino put out a few years ago. Unless an artist had a large number of hits, I would not really want more than two or three songs from each artist. I would stick to an average of about 25 songs per CD, but we do have the flexibility of three or four CDs in our imaginary set.

So, let's hear from everyone about some tracks you'd like to see on such a box set! We can dream, can't we? :wink:
 
I actually started doing something like this a couple of months ago, but decided to limit it to a single disc. My idea was to start with each A&M act that released an album and stick a representative song on this disc. I think I also decided on first albums, at least undtil I got most of the way through the disc, then for extras (when the acts started becoming less-and-less interesting to me), I added in some later favorites from earlier acts. Toward the middle, it really started to sound an awful lot like an expanded FAMILY PORTRAIT album, since indeed, many of the acts I needed could only come from that disc (Merry Go Round, and at the time Phil Ochs).

Here's the disc's track list as it ended up:

A Quiet Tear - Herb Alpert Tijuana Brass
I'm Just A Country Boy - George McCurn
Comin' In The Back Door - Baja Marimba Band
Freight Train - Canadian Sweethearts
The French Song - Lucille Starr
You Were On My Mind - We Five
The More I See You - Chris Montez
Goin' Out Of My Head - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
Guantanamera - Sandpipers
Wanderlove - Claudine Longet
Out And About - Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart
Sunshine Girl - The Parade
You Pass Me By - Jimmie Rodgers
I Say A Little Prayer - Burt Bacharach
Windy - Wes Montgomery
Early In The Morning - The Merry-Go-Round
Wave - Antonio Carlos Jobim
Cross My Heart - Phil Ochs
Love So Fine - Roger Nichols & The Small Circle of Friends
Iemanja - Tamba 4
Serenata - Pete Jolly
Flea Bag - Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass
Flyin' High - Julius Wechter & The Baja Marimba Band
Call Me - Chris Montez
Like A Lover - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
Let Go - Sandpipers
It's Hard To Say Goodbye - Claudine Longet


I avoided the clichéd placing of "The Lonely Bull" as track one, just to be different, but it certainly would be OK there. Same thing with Mendes' "Mas Que Nada" - over-anthologized! I skipped Dave Lewis, just because I couldn't find anything on that album that I liked and would want to listen to -- besides, all I have is a cassette copy of it that someone made for me. I debated about Lucille Starr, and whether or not the Canadian Sweethearts were really two acts, and ultimately decided that they were.

Later on, once I got to people like Liza Minnelli, who I've never much cared for, and the comedy albums, I decided to swerve into a couple of the early CTi albums for some inspiration, then concluded with a few repeat artists and some favorite tunes from the period. The one good thing that came out of this exercise was a newfound appreciation for Phil Ochs and his remarkable first A&M album, PLEASURES OF THE HARBOR. After buying that 20th Century Masters MILLENNIUM disc of his, I still just had to have PLEASURES OF THE HARBOR. If nothing else it's proof that the intended purpose of that old FAMILY PORTRAIT album (to promote other A&M artists) is still working its magic after all these years. And in the bargain, I made myself quite a nice little A&M sampler disc.

Harry
...in a sampling mood, online...
 
Harry said:
Later on, once I got to people like Liza Minnelli, who I've never much cared for, and the comedy albums, I decided to swerve into a couple of the early CTi albums for some inspiration....

The CTi albums would make their own nice box-set. A good single-disc sampler would be to combine both of those Audio Master Plus samplers onto a CD and, of course, add a track or two by Tamba 4. A good "A&M Jazz" set could be comprised of two CTi discs and two Horizon discs, with a bit of mainstream A&M mixed into either one (like Pete Jolly and Chuck Mangione, even Seawind).

-= N =-
 
Since that disc I made didn't get into the 70s at all, a second disc could include Carpenters, Cat Stevens, Captain & Tennille, Lani Hall, Herb & Hugh, etc.

A third disc might go heavy on the 80s: Police, Janet Jackson, etc.

Harry
...who thinks he's coming down with a...aaah-choooo!...cold, online...
 
I think you'd have to include some of the early rock acts, like Lee Michaels, Joe Cocker, Mark Benno, Free, Nazareth, Billy Preston and work up to acts like Humble Pie, Frampton, Shawn Phillips, Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Procol Harum, Strawbs, Rick Wakeman and groups like that, which don't get mentioned a lot here.

It's probably possible to have 3 different box sets of A&M material - one for pop, one for rock and one for jazz. Ambitious, but possible. :cool:


Capt. Bacardi
 
The set I'm proposing would only be ochre-label acts...so we're looking at anything that might have hit A&M before, what, 1974? Procol Harum would definitely fit in this classic era, as "Whiter Shade of Pale" was recorded in the 60's. Along with all those others the Cap'n mentioned. I actually wouldn't mind discussing them here either--I could use something new to listen to!

Could make a case for the silver-label and later recordings, though, on a separate box set. If that were the case, it would include Gino Vannelli, Styx, Supertramp, Joe Jackson, Police, Mangione (for the "pop jazz" element), and so on. There's certainly enough material! I'm not familiar with them, but would bands like Free and Stealer's Wheel fall into this later set, or were they ochre label? (They still may fit better on the newer box set, IMHO.) I like the mix of different styles on one set--keeps it from getting monotonous.

-= N =-
 
Free and Stealers Wheel both were ochre-label era artists. STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU came out in '72, and their second album FERGUSLIE PARK was one of the first silver-label items, issued in late '73.
Captain Beefheart had two singles on A&M in the mid-60s, which appeared later on THE A&M BOOTLEG ALBUM (SP 8022) in '71 and much later on THE LEGENDARY A&M SESSIONS, issued on vinyl in 1984 and reissued on CD by Edsel/Demon label in 1986. SESSIONS has only 5 tracks, the two 45s plus a bonus.
I'd suggest reissuing MILLION DOLLAR SAMPLER as a double-CD set with original cover art and include a track from early singles artists, such as:

"Rave On' by Waylon Jennings
"Heartache on the Way (Mexican Corn)" by Terry Stafford
"Little White Lies" by Kenjolairs
"Speedoo" by Dante
"Breakaway" by Toni Basil
"Just Because We're Kids" by Billy Burnette
"Diddy Wah Diddy" by Capt. Beefheart
"The Riddler" by Frank Gorshin
"Lonely Drifter" by Pieces of Eight (The Swinging Medallions)
"It's a Happening" by the Magic Mushrooms
"Moon Racers" by Al DeLory.

JB
 
This would be a fun project. As with any project of this type, if one were ever to happen for real, you just know that someone will come back and say "It's not bad, but this is how I would have done it..."

It's an interesting idea to create, essentially, three collections, roughly divided by the color of label. 1962-73; 1973-86; 1986 to the end. To keep it "on topic," I'll stick with the Ochre Era.

I'd want to include as many hits as possible without turning into a too Alpert-heavy or Carpenters-heavy box. I'd like to see some 45 rpm versions of songs that have never appeared on CD, such as "The Letter" by Joe Cocker and "A Song of Joy" by Miguel Rios, and perhaps a couple original mixes of Carpenters 45 that are hard (or impossible) to find on CD.

Just looking at a list of singles on A&M, I see a huge diversity of artists, some of whom became famous later on, others merely influential. Here are just a few from the Ochre Era, some of whom have not yet been mentioned:

Burt Bacharach
Joan Baez *
George Benson
Blodwyn Pig
Blue Haze
Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart
Brewer & Shipley
Bryndle
Sonny Charles & the Checkmates Ltd.
Jimmy Cliff
Rita Coolidge *
Earth Quake
England Dan & John Ford Coley
Fairport Convention
Flying Burrito Brothers
Peter Frampton *
Free
Keith Hampshire
Humble Pie
Quincy Jones *
Arthur Lee
Groucho Marx
Bill Medley
The Merry-Go-Round
Lee Michaels
The Move
Michael (Martin) Murphey
The Parade
Shawn Phillips
Billy Preston
Procol Harum **
Jimmie Rodgers
The Ronettes
Status Quo
Strawbs
Supertramp *
Nino Tempo
T(yrannosaurus) Rex
Gino Vannelli *
Rick Wakeman
Paul Williams

* had their biggest A&M hits in the Silver Age, but were already on A&M in the Ochre Era.
** "A Whiter Shade of Pale" was a hit on Deram, not A&M, but "Homburg" or the live "Conquistador" would qualify.
 
Tim Neely said:
I'd want to include as many hits as possible without turning into a too Alpert-heavy or Carpenters-heavy box. I'd like to see some 45 rpm versions of songs that have never appeared on CD, such as "The Letter" by Joe Cocker and "A Song of Joy" by Miguel Rios, and perhaps a couple original mixes of Carpenters 45 that are hard (or impossible) to find on CD.

Good points. It's all too easy for someone to throw a lot of TJB or Carps singles onto this kind of box set, but the idea is to get a lot of variety and feature those other artists. And a good barometer of A&M would be those hits that would be considered "essential", "influential" and "representative". That's why I'd limit the artists to two, maybe three hits at most, on the box.

Just looking at a list of singles on A&M, I see a huge diversity of artists, some of whom became famous later on, others merely influential. Here are just a few from the Ochre Era, some of whom have not yet been mentioned:

** "A Whiter Shade of Pale" was a hit on Deram, not A&M, but "Homburg" or the live "Conquistador" would qualify.

Actually, we could sneak it in, since I have it on an A&M LP. :wink: (I'm not sure if it falls under "reissue" or "international licensing deal".)

I'm thinking, though, that if a person had those hits in the silver-label era, then that would probably be the best place to highlight their music. Unless, of course, there was an early and/or interesting success on the ochre label that deserves a spot on the box set.

Now with some artists listed, maybe we can pick out a few songs. But...which ones? This isn't a place for obscurities by well-known artists--it would probably be better to have Carpenters top-charting hits vs. some obscurity hidden on one of their weaker albums. For Alpert, I would probably pick "The Lonely Bull" only because it was the first A&M hit single, and then "Taste Of Honey" and "Tijuana Taxi" due to their signature A&M sound. Would I include "This Guy's In Love With You"? Maybe--it was Alpert's first #1, Bacharach/David's first #1, A&M's first #1, etc. An important single. Limiting to three songs, though, I'd probably take out "Taxi".

Decisions, decisions.... :wink: I could pick out some tunes for the artists I know, but beyond that, I'm at a loss. All the more reason this box set would be cool--I'd finally get to hear all the artists and songs I've seen mentioned here over the years. :)

-= N =-
 
Hi Rudy, I would like to reccomend you to compile not a 4CD but a 6CD and you will put together literally ALL of the original TJB oficially released material, including the vinyl transfers of Warm, Summertime and some other LPs that never made it to CD. I did it! :) Just now I am listening to it and it is great!

Well, I am still waiting for THE COMPLETE HERB ALPERT AND TIJUANA BRASS A&M RECORDINGS box and there is nothing that could convince me to buy another f***** compilation. I just bought the 20CD box of Complete Miles Davis in Montreux 1973-1991 and a complete TJB box is the only thing I will accept, even if I will have to live forever! :)
 
That's OK for a TJB box set, but this one is for an A&M-artist various artists box set. :wink:

It would make sense, though, to offer the whole TJB catalog as a box set...instant collectible!

-= N =-
 
Sorry for that, pal. I am so concentrated on TJB box that when I see "A&M", I already read it as "TJB". Well, I was pretty off topic but you guys will surely accept my appologies.

Please, do not forget also Janet Jackson, Rick Wakeman and Supertramp who also contributed hugely to the A&M fame.
 
No problem--you could probably find our old TJB box set topic and post something there. :wink:

For this topic, I'm interested in early-era A&M, up to about 1973. I do think a 2nd box set for later artists would be cool, though, with samples of all the big hits (Police, Styx, Supertramp, Janet Jackson, etc.) and "misses" too, of course, like Rosie Vela...whom I adore, but she barely made a wave on the music scene (other than having a famous producer and sidemen).

-= N =-
 
That second boxed set has to include...
Oingo Boingo!
(either "Little Girls", "Only A Lad" or "Private Life"

--Mr Bill
 
Oingo Boingo--you bet!! It may not technically be A&M, but I prefer the original version of "Only A Lad". Also, was "Grey Matter" ever a hit? I swore I've seen part of a video clip for it, where they were visually acting out the "all the boys bang things" percussion break. :wink:

I wonder how many other IRS-type artists we could throw in there? Many appeared on the A&M-released URGH! A MUSIC WAR. An IRS box set is a given...would love to see one. :wink: But on an A&M, I'd almost want to put a track like "We Got The Beat" on the set, since it was a big hit.

-= N =-
...there's something inside your head...tiny insects buzzing, buzzing, buzzing through the air...my skeletons are hidden in the closet...wild sex, in the working class, after dark, it's a gas...

(Gotta get out those Oingo Boingo albums tonight :D )
 
I.R.S.'s biggest singles were "Our Lips Are Sealed" and "We Got The Beat" by the Go-Go's, "Mexican Radio" by Wall Of Voodoo, "She Drives Me Crazy" by Fine Young Cannibals, "Tenderness" by General Public, "Rain In The Summertime" by The Alarm, "Mad About You" by Belinda Carlisle and "The Future's So Bright I Gotta Wear Shades" by Timbuk 3. They have other "hits" like "Save It For Later" & "I Confess" by The (English) Beat, "Dizz Knee Land" by dada, "Joey" Concrete Blonde, a few cuts by R.EM. (before they went to Warners), "Blue Kiss" by Jane Wiedlin and few cuts by Stan Ridgway.

--Mr Bill
curator of things I.R.S.... and who just finished the pages for all the (English) Beat cluster of I.R.S. acts...
 
Here are tracks I'd like to see (regardless of label color) in an A&M compilation, in no particular order -

Captain Bacardi - Antonio Carlos Jobim
Let Go - Sandpipers
Solitude Standing - Suzanne Vega
Slick - Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
Casino Royale - Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
Rainy Days And Mondays - Carpenters
I Won't Last A Day Without You - Carpenters
The Joker - Wes Montgomery
We Could Be Flying - Lani Hall
I Don't Want You To Go - Lani Hall
Love Song - Lani Hall
How Insensitive - Claudine Longet
Love Is Blue - Claudine Longet
For Me - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
Berimbau - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
Salt Sea - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
The Frog - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
So Many Stars - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
Masquerade - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66

I could go on and on with B'66 tracks, but then I guess I'm somewhat biased....
 
1.HERB ALPERT/T.J.B.SPANISHFLEA.2.GUANTANAMERA,SANDPIPERS.3LOOKAROUND.BRASIL66.4YOU WERE ON MY MIND,WE FIVE.5.DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO SAN JOSE,BAJA MARIMBA BAND.6ROXANNE THE POLICE.7 I GOT YOU,SPLIT ENZ.8.TEMPTED,SQUEEZE.9.DOUBLE OR NOTHING,LANI HALL.10.RISE,HERB ALPERT.11.BLACK HOLE SUN,SOUNDGARDEN.12.RUN TO YOU,BRYAN ADAMS.13.FLEA BAG,T.J.B.14.EARLY IN THE MORNING,MERRY GO ROUND.15.WILD WORLD /CAT STEVENS.16.A WHITER SHADE OF PALE,PROCUL HAREM.17.LOGICAL SONG SUPERTRAMP.18.PART OF THE UNION,STRAWBS.19.SUNDAY PAPERS,JOE JACKSON.20.STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU,STALERS WHEEL.21.WINDY,WES MONTGOMERY.22.VENTO BRAVO,T.J.B.23.NASTY,JANET JACKSON.24.GOLDEN SLUMBERS,GEORGE BENSON.25.SUPERSTAR,CARPENTERS.26.ITS TOO LATE,CAROLE KING.27.LOBO,HERB ALPERT/HUGH MASEKELA.28.ALL THIS TIME,STING.
 
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