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Thanks, Harry !
Wow....Richard's arrangement on this is far superior to the version on Hush LP,
How was it that the other rendition was chosen for Hush, instead of this arrangement---
a great one, which has Karen Carpenter vocals written all over ?
Again, I must ask:
according to Discogs, regarding the Neil Sedaka jazzy-version
(Hungry Years LP)
of song Breaking Up Is Hard To Do,
Richard Carpenter was only credited for the strings-arrangement
of the song.
I do not have the actual LP, so I am unable to actually verify anything,
but, did Richard Carpenter come up with the entire arrangement for the song,
or, only the String-portion of it ?
Ron Tutt is credited for drums on
Ordinary Fool,
"...tracked for the Hush album in 1976..."
In reading the Hush LP sleeve notes, I see Jim Gordon and Cubby O'Brien
handled the drumming on those (released in 1976) cuts.
Thus, I wonder, was the song "tracked" without drums in 1976 ?
Recorded for "Hush"? Never heard of this tune. Tell me more.
Q:
"Love Me For What I Am" was written by Palma Pascale,
and recorded by the Carpenters. What was it that caught your ear?
Were other songs by Palma recorded?
A:
Richard Carpenter:
The entire song caught my ear, especially, of course, the hook.
I felt some of Palma's lyrics weren't on par with the melody and with her permission brought in John Bettis for lyric revisions.
One other song of Palma's considered was "Box Office Movie King".
Source:
Carpenters Fans Ask- Richard Answers, May 2005 »
Was it known for a while that "Box Office Movie King" had actually been recorded? Richard only mentioned that it was "considered" (clever way of saying it so people are not asking for it to be released) along with some other tunes. On the Lead Sister site I found this quote:
"Karen sings this Palma Pascale tune with beauty. It’s well-suited for her voice, and it is a lovely song. Karen’s reading of it is just right in this writer’s opinion – longing in her voice – the loneliness shows through, and you can tell she’s had more than her fair share of this kind of relationship, and she definitely needs someone to love her for being her, not the celebrity she now represents;. a beautiful read by Karen, well-produced by Rich, well-written by Palma."
Now I really want to hear this. And yet it will sit in a vault and collect dust for no good reason for Christ knows how much longer.
To me it sounds like the person is describing "Love Me For What I Am" in the above quote, not "Box Office Movie King". In Rick Henry's "Online Interviews" publication, he has an extensive interview with the late Palma Pascale and she stated that she was notified that the Carpenters never recorded it. "I was told a year later that she had decided to go in a different direction with the next album, and the song wouldn't fit". There may be an unfinished version in the vault but Ms. Pascale also said that she got hold of a list of unreleased songs and did not see any of her submissions on it.
To me it sounds like the person is describing "Love Me For What I Am" in the above quote, not "Box Office Movie King". In Rick Henry's "Online Interviews" publication, he has an extensive interview with the late Palma Pascale and she stated that she was notified that the Carpenters never recorded it. "I was told a year later that she had decided to go in a different direction with the next album, and the song wouldn't fit". There may be an unfinished version in the vault but Ms. Pascale also said that she got hold of a list of unreleased songs and did not see any of her submissions on it.
Have I overlooked this in the Forum Resource ?
The UK Box Set (1989, CARPCD-12) Kind of Hush CD
utilizes the version of
I Need To Be In Love,
without the piano introduction.
I'm sure it's somewhere on the Resource page, but, I couldn't locate it.
(OK, give me a break, I am getting old !).
Have I overlooked this in the Forum Resource ?
The UK Box Set (1989, CARPCD-12) Kind of Hush CD
utilizes the version of
I Need To Be In Love,
without the piano introduction.
I'm sure it's somewhere on the Resource page, but, I couldn't locate it.
(OK, give me a break, I am getting old !).
Tell you one thing I noticed about the version of this song featured on the "Nation's Favourite" collection. They used the long piano intro version but on the very first note that the bass kicks in, the OK Chorale does as well. On other "long piano" versions, the Chorale is only faded in a couple of bars later. It sounds almost like Richard remixed the intro slightly and brought the Chorale in right after the harp where the bass strikes up.
From what I've heard on the online samples, "I Need To Be In Love" is the original album version, which does bring in the chorale earlier than on the remix. Is that what you're hearing?