From Legal Eagles To Tijuana Brass 1958-1962

TallPaulInKy

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This is now available on Amazon and at a reasonable price. The label Jasmine is well known for issuing public-domain material. I haven't heard it, but obviously for collectors that don't have the singles..


 

Bobberman

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I decided to Nip things in the bud and buy this CD I got it today and I thought I'd give my review of it here even though this is a Gray area Euro release as Harry Stated I will say this collection isnt totally Bad but it could have been much more I felt it was unnecessary to include the Stereo tracks From "The Lonely Bull" but the true mono versions of the A and B sides of the aforementioned Single are included and they Sound pretty good to my ears Considering the Masters they had The Lonely bull"mono version here sounds a bit better than the mono version on "Definitive Hits" in my opinion and Tell it to the Birds sounds pretty good here too you will hear some surface like noise on most of the tracks keeping in mind what masters they were using There's no way to know if or when Herb will ever release his masters of these exact songs and we know there were Dore Alpert singles on A&M that sadly arent included here ( I would love to have those but they are impossible to find in decent shape) However at the price I paid around $13 about the same as what you expect to pay for Herb's reissues I would say this would be a good Stopgap purchase until Per chance Herb Decides to dig through his Vaults and Do a More Complete version of this Minus The Stereo Lonely bull songs which in a way sounds almost exactly like the Regular stereo mix of the original LP and in my opinion. UNNECESSARILY REDUNDANT .some of you may want to pass this one by and I wouldn't blame you but in my situation I was Curious and I have purchased import CDS before and they sounded fine since they were mostly reissues of albums I couldn't get Domestic versions of nevertheless I would Give this collection a grade of 3 and A Half stars out of five it would have been 5 stars if they had included The A&M Dore Alpert singles. And Left out The Stereo tracks from The Lonely Bull or at least used the Mono Mixes
 

Rudy

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I got ahold of a download of this CD and to be honest, it doesn't sound all that bad. Even though it misses a few tracks, it has enough of these rarities that it's worthwhile to pick up. Ignore the Lonely Bull tracks though--the latest remaster is the definitive version and this one won't hold a candle to it. (But at least as a download, I can delete the extra tracks and keep the rarities.)
 

Harry

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The only thing on that disc that I don't own in some form or other is the single by The Roosters.
 

Bobberman

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I got ahold of a download of this CD and to be honest, it doesn't sound all that bad. Even though it misses a few tracks, it has enough of these rarities that it's worthwhile to pick up. Ignore the Lonely Bull tracks though--the latest remaster is the definitive version and this one won't hold a candle to it. (But at least as a download, I can delete the extra tracks and keep the rarities.)
I agree when I ripped it to my computer I omitted everything after the mono mix of Acapulco 1922 and I agree The Latest Lonely Bull remaster is the definitive version which is why I mentioned adding the album tracks was unnecessary and redundant
 

Bernoullis

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... I agree The Latest Lonely Bull remaster is the definitive version which is why I mentioned adding the album tracks was unnecessary and redundant
For the simpletons like me, precisely which remaster would that be? A date, perhaps, or a link to said album? Thanks.
 

Rudy

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For the simpletons like me, precisely which remaster would that be? A date, perhaps, or a link to said album? Thanks.
The most recent, remastered by Randy Badazz. As long as the issuing label is Herb Alpert Presents, that would be the title to get.

 

Bernoullis

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The most recent, remastered by Randy Badazz. As long as the issuing label is Herb Alpert Presents, that would be the title to get.
Thanks for the clarification, Rudy!

Regarding the 'From Legal Eagles To Tijuana Brass 1958-1962' album by Jasmine itself, I acquired it a couple of days ago and I consider it a reasonably worthy attempt at getting some of Herb's really early stuff back out on the market. Sure, probably only of real interest to dedicated Alpert fans, but at least the material is now readily available.

The thing that surprises me the most is that Jasmine Records is a UK outfit. I would have expected a USA company to be at the forefront of issuing something like this, but, as alluded to earlier in this thread, maybe there are grey areas of the law to be considered. Having had a look at Jamine's website (www.jasmine-records.co.uk), I have no concerns about illegality, but I am not a copyright expert.

I am just personally pleased that someone has taken on the release, allowing fans and completists access to the music without them having to spend a fortune searching for, and collecting (battered) originals. Is that really such a bad thing?
 

Rudy

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Since those recordings are on other labels that weren't A&M, theoretically they could all be licensed for a compilation if the copyright hasn't yet expired in whatever country the release is in. Whether or not this label bothered, and/or followed the copyright laws for their country, probably makes no difference one way or another. This is something that will sell very few copies, so it's not like any major financial loss would happen here either way. 😁
 

Harry

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The thing that surprises me the most is that Jasmine Records is a UK outfit. I would have expected a USA company to be at the forefront of issuing something like this, but, as alluded to earlier in this thread, maybe there are grey areas of the law to be considered. Having had a look at Jamine's website (www.jasmine-records.co.uk), I have no concerns about illegality, but I am not a copyright expert.

I am just personally pleased that someone has taken on the release, allowing fans and completists access to the music without them having to spend a fortune searching for, and collecting (battered) originals. Is that really such a bad thing?
Nope, not a bad thing at all. These recordings have all languished in the dustbin of history, so by having this UK outfit do the dirty work of finding these tracks and compiling them is indeed a good thing. The copyright of all of this stuff is expired in the UK, so that's why it could be issued legally over there.

Out of curiosity, I too grabbed one of these just to see what the tracks sounded like. Most of them are pretty decent - all are lifted from vinyl as opposed to any kind of master tapes, and probably the worst of them are the tracks from THE LONELY BULL stereo album. That one's easily obtainable on Herb Alpert Presents, or event from the older Shout and A&M CDs, not to mention the myriad pressings on vinyl.

As I mentioned somewhere, there are two singles from the early A&M days that are among the missing. Both were issued under the Dore Alpert name.

Dina / You're Doin' What You Did With Me With Him
I'd Do It All Again / Special Kind Of Love

A few months ago, I put a really clean version of "Dina" up on YouTube.
 
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