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Murray said:Karen has never sounded better! I hope that RC releases some more albums in hi-res surround
davidgra said:Amen to that! I would *love* to hear A SONG FOR YOU remixed for surround sound.
raz42289 said:You know how we have always thought that the line "So I've made my mind up I must live my life alone and..." in Goodbye to Love that was included on the QUAD Singles 1969-1973 was the alternate?
Well, I have heard Goodbye to Love (center channel) and it turns out that was the original and not the alternate. If you listen closely on the SACD to the center channel, you will notice that line has a different presence and no piano. This "alternate" has appeared on every version except the QUAD and the 1985,1990 remixes.
My guess is that Richard went back and had Karen re-record that line for the single because he was unhappy with it. What is interesting is that you can hear the original piano in the center channel, except for this "alternate" line. That and the different presence leads me to believe that this was recorded at a different time and added in. You can also hear the adding together of both "ands" like the "I think I'm gonna be sad" of Ticket to Ride from both versions that is found on the QUAD version.
Since this is really confusing to take in, here is a simple conclusion.
What we have always thought to be the alternate take, was actually the original take.
I have always thought that the orignial version had the first take. What do I know? hehe Didn't Harry discover something similar on the 1973 version of Top Of The World?
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...discovering new things while picking apart songs, online...
raz42289 said:Chris, have you noticed that there isn't anything in the subwoofer channel on Ticket To Ride? That surprises me because I would have thought the low strings would have been perfect for this.
Murray said:Last night, I listened to the entire surround layer of the SACD. I was very impressed with the alternate lead on "I Believe You". Karen sings it more slowly, and her vocal sounds much more intimate than on the version we're used to hearing. I NEVER liked this song before, but the 'new' vocal gave me chills! The alternate lead on "It's Going To Take Some Time" is also a very pleasant bonus. "Calling Occupants" sounds the most incredible in surround of any of the tracks. It was an amazing experience, being enveloped in the sweetest sounds on earth for 77 minutes!
Then I was brought crashing back to reality. When the disc ended, my brand new Pioneer DV578-A didn't shut off. The disc continued spinning, and a LOUD whirring noise emanated from the player. I think the laser mechanism was stuck. I finally had to eject the disc and kill the power to make it stop. Today I took the player back to the store. Unfortunately, they didn't have another one to exchange it for, so I had to settle for a refund. Now I am playerless again! I asked the store owner if he will be getting any more, and he replied "probably not", as there is "no demand" for hi-res players and discs in this area. I was the first person who had even inquired about SACD players in the past 6 months, and that's why he sold it to me for such a good price - to get rid of the thing!
I don't know when (or even if) I'll get to listen to the SACD again, but at least I got to hear the Carpenters in surround ONCE! And how sweet it was!!
Murray
...upset at Pioneer's lack of quality control...
ThaFunkyFakeTation said:I have a Pioneer All disc player as well and I've never had an issue with mine. Nothing's perfect and you probably got the one bad one in a few thousand. Where did you buy it that they told you that there was "no demand" for them? I got mine at Myer-Emco and they had a few I could choose from.
Ed