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Official Review [Album]: "NOW & THEN" (SP-3519)

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Chris May, May 2, 2013.


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  1. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the boards! :)
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  2. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    I must say, after listening to the fantastic song
    I Can't Make Music,
    it astounds me that it appears on so few compilations.
    Outside of the actual Now & Then album, it seems to be absent on American Compilations,
    and only a few Non-USA compilations.
    Yesterday Once More and I Can't Make Music
    are my two favorites on this album.....

    WYBIMLA Active Member

    ^There was a remix of I can't make music on the Treasures album. Subtle differences to my ears.
    I don't think it was used again on any other compilation, but the original mix appeared again in the 2000 Japanese release By Request. That's also a really nice collection I find. Great song!
  4. Harry

    Harry Charter A&M Corner Member Moderator

    There was a hefty dose of reverb added to the remix for TREASURES (JP), which in this case makes sense given the opening lyrics: "Here I am just sittin' around, with an old piano in a vacant room..."

    The reverb adds the sense that the room is really 'vacant.'

    That remix also appeared on the giant MAGICAL MEMORIES OF THE CARPENTERS set from 1993.
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  5. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    One of the times when a remix really brings a tired-sounding song to life. I love it!
  6. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Realizing that I have expressed disdain for the earlier (or, most)
    flute solos,
    I must retract a bit: I do rather enjoy the flute solo in Jambalaya.
    Oh, well, could simply be that I have not heard it in such a long time !
  7. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    I enjoy this album, always have. Karen shows she can sing any style of music and with a precision vocally and spiritually while connecting the listener. Her voice, in perfect health, sings a wide range with ease showcasing the layering of overdubs complimentary to the various styles presented on the album. Her contralto voice sounds perfect singing the oldies and we can hear her joy as she sings as if she is sharing part of herself with us. And, the most perfect song of their career, Yesterday Once More is a highlight!

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  8. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    Our Day Will Come is my favorite of all the oldies they recorded.
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  9. AM Matt

    AM Matt Well-Known Member

    Besides The Carpenters version of "Our Day Will Come", I also loved Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass instrumental version (from 1966 "S.R.O."). Matt Clark Sanford, MI
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  10. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Mine too. Karen's voice is just gorgeous on this song, possibly the best I've heard her. Like velvet.
  11. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    The piano arrangement is excellent as well. It matches Karen's vocals and drumming. It is a great song on its own and they took it to another level!
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  12. ars nova

    ars nova Active Member

    i'm sure Richard would not have wanted to create the impression the medley was included as a time saver because they didn't have enough time to do " the good stuff" . the same reasoning was offered for the medley on the tan album. time restraints are real and carpenters were the a&m cow. both medleys are outstanding examples of their work. I always felt there was never enough on any album, i'm just greedy.
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  13. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    As I was listening to Now & Then, I was struck by
    the great guitar work on Da-Doo-Ron-Ron....
    is it Tony Peluso or Gary Sims, there ?
    Also, I note that the actual LP Cover has no indication of the songs inside,
    so I wonder if the LP Cover could have been formatted better , so as to
    list those songs....increasing sales or chart status at the time ?
    (The cd does have the track listing on back !).
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  14. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    I agree with the previous comments about Our Day Will Come. It was the sparkling gem of a great oldies medley. The Piano, drum work, and needless to say, those vocals! Again, as with This Masquerade, I really love the Richard/Karen harmonies...whooowoooo...
  15. Rumbahbah

    Rumbahbah Well-Known Member

    Agreed on 'Our Day Will Come' - it's lovely. Just like the magic fit they had with Leon Russell songs, they always seemed to come up trumps when they covered Ruby and the Romantics tracks. I think 'Johnny Angel' is probably my favourite song in the medley (those backing vocals...) but this runs it a very close second.
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  16. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    "Just like the magic fit they had with Leon Russell songs, they always seemed to come up trumps when they covered Ruby and the Romantics tracks."

    Agreed! Our Day Will Come, Hurting Each Other and Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore sound as if they were written for Karen to sing and Richard to produce and arrange.
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  17. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Reading From The Top Liner Notes,
    and Gary Sims is guitarist of credit on the Oldies Medley.
    Well done Gary Sims !
  18. ullalume

    ullalume Well-Known Member

    Good stuff Gary. I never realised your name sake played guitar in the medley. However it's still Tony handling those solos (he's credited with lead guitar.)

  19. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^Thanks,Neil !
    By the way, I must add that Now & Then,
    which I played today, is sounding mighty good these days !
    As an added bonus, I love how some of these oldies selections were placed on
    the Reader's Digest (Disc 2) , sans DJ...Karen's vocals are ever more crystallized.
  20. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    Da Doo Ron Ron is sorely missed on that set...
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  21. Rick-An Ordinary Fool

    Rick-An Ordinary Fool Well-Known Member

    Storybook Success Newest Hit Single "Sing"
    Record World April 14, 1973

  22. ars nova

    ars nova Active Member

    has there ever been an explanation for this? the screaming guitar and the difference of how the " yeahs " are pronounced, as opposed to the live albums, makes this high energy track my favorite from the medley......who am I kidding?, they are all my favorite, or maybe ONE FINE DAY is, ahhh for the summer of '73,,,,,, i'm in my happy place,,,, shooby do ang lang.
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  23. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Interesting stats regards
    Holland #3 - Feb 1974 (11 weeks),
    Belgium#7 - Feb 1974 (10 weeks),
    Austria #8 - May 1974 (2 weeks),
    UK #12 - Mar 1974 (11 weeks).

    Song artist 85 - Carpenters
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  24. Personally, even though the album concept was born of a lack of original songs, I always felt the end result was nothing short of a masterpiece; a true showcasing of each (and all) of their individual talents. Not to mention the album art; though it too was said to be an unoriginal idea, I think it turned out magnificent.
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  25. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    Music to Cook to: A Contemplative Culinary Playlist
    "Music to Cook to: A Contemplative Culinary Playlist"
    Written by Riddles — Posted on 11.22.17
    "...the right transition into the head-scratchingly odd yet uniquely fascinating take by
    The Carpenters on the New Orleans-celebrating Creole classic “Jambalaya (On The Bayou).”
    "Upon first glance, one might discount this seemingly high fructose corn syrup version
    of the more typically gritty Louisiana cuisine-saluting tune,
    but darned if that Karen Carpenter doesn’t figure out a way to sneak into your heart
    with her soothing tones (and light rock drumming skills)."

    A listener....who does not realize that Hal Blaine drums on Jambalaya.....
    Otherwise, a nice shout-out for Jambalaya.....Carpenters' style.....

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