🎷 Jazz AOTW Antonio Carlos Jobim - STONE FLOWER

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Captain Bacardi

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Antonio Carlos Jobim
STONE FLOWER
CTi Records

Released 1970

Peaked at #18 on the Jazz Album chart and #196 on the Billboard 200 Album chart (1971)

Produced by Creed Taylor

Songs:
1. Tereza My Love - 4:22
2. Children's Games - 3:29
3. Choro - 2:08
4. Brazil (Ary Barroso) - 7:24
5. Stone Flower - 3:19
6. Amparo - 3:39
7. Andorinha - 3:29
8. God And The Devil In The Land Of The Sun - 2:21
9. Sabiá (C. Hollanda/A.C. Jobim) - 3:57
10. Brazil (alternate take) - 5:25*
* - CD Bonus Track
All compositions by Antonio Carlos Jobim unless otherwise indicated
Arranged by Eumir Deodato
Musicians:
Antonio Carlos Jobim - Guitar, Piano & Vocals
Eumir Deodato - Guitar
Joe Farrell - Soprano Sax
Hubert Laws - Flute
Urbie Green - Trombone
Ron Carter - Bass
Airto Moreira - Percussion
Everaldo Ferriera - Percussion
Joao Palm - Percussion & Drums
Harry Lookofsky - Violin

Recorded by Rudy Van Gelder at Van Gelder Studios
Cover Album Design: Tony Lane
Cover Photograph: Pete Turner

Available from Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Stone-Flower-...-2&keywords=antonio+carlos+jobim+stone+flower



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Dave

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I first bought 'Brazil' as a single and it had a cool all-green label... It was also divided into 'Part 1' and 'Part 2', something you can't even get as a CD Bonus Track...

A fairly good outing, if it does hint at his past A&M/CTi work, in that it works as a extension of Wave, going at a moody, comfortable pace, while avoiding the uncomfortable inequity of Tide, in not duplicating any of the tendencies to become redundant... Instead, offering a new insight (owed to on-the-level Eumir Deodato's arrangements) brought into view, by avoiding any commercial debacle and introducing a calmer, fresher approach...


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Rudy

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If I could rate this one a "6", I would. Tide was disposable IMHO--it plays like unfinished leftovers from the Wave sessions--there are parts of some of the tunes that seem empty. Oh, and who needs "Wave" played sideways ("Tide")? It was also, IIRC, the last CTi album on A&M, and it reeks of "contract fulfillment."

Stone Flower is what Tide should have been. It has a similar sound to Wave but the mood is darker and the music more complex (yet, still easygoing, as was Jobim's style). Definitely a worthy Jobim album, every bit the equal of Wave (if not exceeding it).
 

Captain Bacardi

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I really like this album. I was a late-comer to this CD, but have enjoyed it quite a bit. You can't go wrong when the opening tune features Urbie Green's beautiful trombone work! I did find it interesting that Jobim did a cover of "Brazil", but it works. You don't really hear other artists covering some of these songs - at least I can't think of many.



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Rudy

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I have been trying to figure out if "Double Rainbow" (aka "Childrens Games") made its debut on this album. Getz and Gilberto would cover it on Getz's Best Of Two Worlds LP on Columbia (which featured Joao's wife Miucha on vocals...both of whom are Bebel's parents).

I like Santana's version of "Stone Flower" on his Caravanserai album--it actually stays true to Jobim's rendition here, while also sticking to Santana's sound back in that era. I like Santana's quote of "God and the Devil in the Land of the Sun" at the beginning of his "Stone Flower" also.
 

Harry

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I'm new to STONE FLOWER, having just added an older Epic Associated CD to my collection. I notice above in this thread that "Brazil" is listed at 7:24. This Epic CD has it at 9:40. That's quite a bit longer.

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Rudy

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I've never seen that version, but I'm guessing it is probably an earlier release than the current one (which I've had for about 17 or so years now). I think the timing on this CD must be incorrect; the second "Brazil" on any CD version is a bonus track, an unused take from the sessions.

Doug Payne's reference shows that Tide and Stone Flower have the same session dates and of course, much of the same personnel.


The 45 RPM vinyl cut is sumptuous, but has been out of print for a few years now.
 

lj

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Here is a terrific review of the Stone Flower album by Arnaldo DeSouteiro. Interestingly, the great Creed Taylor choose every song for this impeccable album. And the side musicians were truly all-time all stars, with the likes of Ron Carter, Airto, and Joao Palma. The review noted Joao Palma's superb brush work on Brazil--that's for sure. And Eumir Deodato's arrangements are tops. Jobim always surrounded himself with the very best musicians.

Jazz Station - Arnaldo DeSouteiro's Blog (Jazz, Bossa & Beyond): Antonio Carlos Jobim "Stone Flower" - Liner Notes (jazzstation-oblogdearnaldodesouteiros.blogspot.com)
 

Harry

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I grabbed that rear insert photo from Discogs, but mine is even slightly different from that. It has a different (newer?) Epic Associated logo on the lower left of the copyright section, and it has a Legacy logo on the lower right. Yet my CD exactly matched the entry on Discogs, down to the hub numbering.
 

Harry

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I've never seen that version, but I'm guessing it is probably an earlier release than the current one (which I've had for about 17 or so years now). I think the timing on this CD must be incorrect; the second "Brazil" on any CD version is a bonus track, an unused take from the sessions.

Doug Payne's reference shows that Tide and Stone Flower have the same session dates and of course, much of the same personnel.


The 45 RPM vinyl cut is sumptuous, but has been out of print for a few years now.

So if the album had come out under the A&M CTi banner, it might have looked like this:

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Rudy

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Here is a terrific review of the Stone Flower album by Arnaldo DeSouteiro.
I don't agree with his assessment of Wave at all--he considers it uneven, where I find it a very solid and cohesive whole. Others hold it in high regard also--musically I'd consider it to be neck and neck with Tamba 4's We and The Sea in terms of being the best A&M/CTi album.

In fact, if I had to choose a "best" Jobim album, I'd be hard pressed to choose between that album and Stone Flower. I've always felt that Tide was an album of leftovers and I wasn't far from wrong--since they owed A&M one more record and chose tunes for both albums from the same sessions, it's understandable A&M would get the lesser of the two records. Creed Taylor did differentiate them a little by putting the tunes with the heavier orchestral accompaniment on Tide and keeping Stone Flower as a quiter, evocative experience. Tide is not a terrible album by any means, but it's decidedly average--I don't find anything aside from "Tema Jazz" that really stands out for me there, and the title track is such a throwaway I'm surprised they even cut it. (Basically aimless noodling to the changes of "Wave.")
 

Bobberman

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I have this CD and I enjoy it Equally to Wave and Tide ( which I also have) I consider it my personal trilogy of sorts with Stone flower being different from Tide a levels though the songs were from the same sessions as mentioned previously But nevertheless Great music all around
 
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