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Mike Blakesley said:One wonders what directions Herb would have gone if WARM had been a smash hit.
Hey, Mike -- My 2 cents...if he was able to sustain a career as a hit vocalist or regain the instrumental momentum from the Zanzueria 45 -- either way, I think it would've been w/o the TjB. Given the two most interesting songs on Warm are from Brazilian writers, maybe he would've gone more in that direction. (Definitely my "TjB dream LP" following Warm would've emphasized HA's unique take on Brazilian pop.)Mike Blakesley said:One wonders what directions Herb would have gone if WARM had been a smash hit.
Hi, Richard -- I routinely fail to adequately consider the business end of things with artists... Surely you are correct in that he had contractual obligations pending from previous management decisions. (Recall how, similarly, the Beatles used Let it Be as their final film in their 4-film contract; and Allen Klein issued an LP of 45 and non-LP cuts [Hey Jude] to similarly satisfy their recording contract. Of course, HA, owning his own company, had no such recording obligations.)[email protected] said:The "Brass Are Comin'" special and accompanying album would have already been contracted with NBC and BankAmericard, and once that obligation was finished in October, 1969...
I've never heard that before. What would have been the point? Almost all of the group's hits, and then some, were on the previous 2 compilations.There was a TJB "Greatest Hits Vol. 3" album that was never released.
JO said:Out of curiosity, does anyone know who formally "managed" the TjB and/or Herb Alpert as a recording artists -- or did Herb and Jerry provide self-oversight for all things Alpert/TjB?
The Irrepressable Captain B said:There was a manager - I believe his name was Sherwin Bash or something like that - who was Herb's manager.
This forum is amazing...there's always someone whose got the goods!The snarky repellent of the humorless said:Yes. Corwin/Bash Associates (CBA) I believe was the management group's name.The Irrepressable Captain B said:There was a manager - I believe his name was Sherwin Bash or something like that - who was Herb's manager.
--Mr. Bill
Mike Blakesley said:Well Pisano was a member of Brasil '66 (not on the road though) for a few years. And of course he was also half of Pisano and Ruff! (Have you heard that UNDER THE BLANKET album, James?)
[email protected] said:I figure that "Warm" was the beginning of the next phase of the artist's career...an album that was a result of his trip to Brazil to skip the California winter of 1968-69.
The "Brass Are Comin'" special and accompanying album would have already been contracted with NBC and BankAmericard, and once that obligation was finished in October, 1969, he was "fried" and focused on producing others' work (England Dan, "Wings")
I can corroborate Richard's story. While going through my Major TjB Kick II in HS, I went over to the local university library and researched magazines and journals in an attempt to compile a list of released TjB [this was 1981/82]. Here I found an industry journal (whose name is now long since forgotten) listing both release dates and, if I correctly recall, deletion dates. Interestingly, while there were dozens of articles written about HA/TjB in '68, in '69 there were only two that I located. One was a feature I believe entitled something like "Everybody's Music Maker" in a "women's" magazine...it had a photo of Herb in his A&M office with really bushy sideburns, I seem to recall a shag carpet and colourful clothes -- a trendy '69 photo. The other reference led me to a press release in a trade publication. It mentioned that HA (or A&M) had dissolved both the TjB and the BMB. No doubt this release was picked up by newspapers and magazines. It was OCT/NOV69.[email protected] said:The small newspaper article (that I still have) is from November, 1969, that Herb had "disbanded the brass along with the Baja Marimba Band, another A&M group."
HOLLYWOOD--There's no reason for Tijuana Brass fans to get overly excited.
True, Herb Alpert has reorganized the group which catapulted him from obscurity to undisputed international king of the music scene in the '60s. However, the reorganization has been for recording the new album due on record racks this month. Herb has no plans for a permanent rebirth of the group, no intentions of booking Brass concert dates or performances.
And, before he will even consider any additional record commitments, his new album "Wings," will have to be a big, big seller.
Nearly a year-and-a-half ago I reported that Herb, returning from a disappointing Tijuana Brass tour which proved popularity was diminishing, decided to disband the group which, in seven years, sold over 30 million records.
In the 17 months since that decision, Herb has kept busy working on various producing projects for his A&M label, and several of the Brass boys have cut an album of their own.
In his latest try to rekindle the Tijuana magic, Herb is augmenting the classic Brass sound with elaborate orchestrations, including woodwinds and strings. It will be interesting to see if the public buys it.