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Songs that grew on you

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by WYBIMLA, Apr 16, 2017.


    WYBIMLA Active Member Thread Starter

    What songs did finally came around to liking when at first you did not (perhaps years after first listen?
    or which songs do you find you do not listen to as often anymore (maybe out grew the initial adoration for it)?
    And can you pinpoint the reasoning why.

    I thought of this question while listening to "Midnight". The solo work isn't a great example cause I go back and fourth... But, lately, I've been digging KC solo again! I think it could be as time goes by you appreciate the lesser known stuff more.
    "Two Sides" is a better example for this purpose. At first it didn't hit me, but it's almost like a prototype for "When it's gone" which I think is also great. The guitar backing for Karen's voice blends quite nicely. She nails the ending "goodbye".
    "Now a days Clancy..." is interesting too because it's a bit underrated just the harmony on the "sing" is what does it. Before it was easy to kinda write off.
    "Breaking up is hard to do" isn't so bad either in my opinion now. Oddly, I find it kinda fun, upbeat and complimentary to the "Hush" album.
    On the other side, "All you get from love is a love song" was one I find I haven't listened to in a long time. Maybe causeI wish it got the remix treatment (not that it really needs it) or I played it so much years ago. Lol
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  2. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Solitaire was one I never liked all that much until I heard the single mix, which is a great example of how very subtle changes can make a lot of difference.

    Make Believe It's Your First Time (Carpenters' version) was another that I was never keen on (it definitely shouldn't have been a single), but as the years have gone by, I've come to really appreciate it more. The string patterns towards the end of the chorus are just gorgeous. It also works much better with the bridge added but is another one of the 1980 tracks that suffers from Karen singing in too high a key.

    Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft is another that I thought was a great novelty when I first heard it but then never listened to because of its length and the fact that there's so much going on in the song. But I heard it the other day for the first time in years and was blown away by how majestic it sounds now.
  3. Tony

    Tony Active Member

    Ticket to Ride and Crescent Noon were two that I routinely skipped years ago. Now they are two of my favorites.
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  4. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    I never cared ---initially--for
    Because We Are In Love.....

    Now...I love it.....
    color me crazy....

    WYBIMLA Active Member Thread Starter

    Funny though, eh?
    With differing moods, with age or life circumstances it colours what you're listening to sometimes.

    It goes in phases like "Somebody's been lyin'" I liked and go through times of renewed enjoyment because it's lesser known. I also see the parts where the production takes over. Similar with "Because we are in love"... that has to do with Karen because she was obviously taken with that one for obvious reasons at the time.

    The early work, "Offering/Ticket" or the non singles of the "Close to you" album often get overlooked...
    But yeah the entire catalogue kinda grows on you. As a fan, you end up knowing the material quite thoroughly.

    I don't know about "Man Smart" though... always been for me and many fans after a certain point the charm of it wears off quite quickly. "You're the one" may as well have taken it's place. That'd be something if that were reversed and it ended up on "Lovelines".
    Probably the only track that you can't refute that how it's less favourable.

    "Occupants" is interesting because it is the most 'out there' song they did.
    From the original by Klaatu it seems there's a bit of over pronunciation going on, but yeah they worked very hard on that one for sure.
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  6. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    Not so much that I didn't like them - but lately, when I hear an older song, I am appreciating it much more.
    In other words, I have gravitated - most of my adult life - to the later recorded product. Practically ignoring the Tan album and CTY. Even A Song for You has been back-burnered on my play-lists.
    And now that I am writing this - I am realizing that the compilations may have diluted my interest in many of the album cuts throughout the last many years.
    I have THIS SITE to thank for igniting my intrigue on albums as they were initially conceived, thus causing me to download albums in their entirety and giving them a fresh listen.
    So - THANK YOU FOR THE MUSIC! Or at least re-introducing me to much of it! :)
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  7. Portlander

    Portlander Member

    I kind of dismissed "I Kept on Loving You" when I first heard it on the Close to You LP due to Richard on lead vocals. But as the years go by, I really love this upbeat song and feel it may have had hit potential similar to "Let Me Be the One" if it had been released early in their career. Don't laugh, but Richard's cover of "Daddy's Home" along with "Saturday" has also grown on me!

    WYBIMLA Active Member Thread Starter

    ^No laughter here.

    I can appreciate a lot of it in the context their crazy touring schedule.
    Would we rather some cuts be different than they are? Sure after hearing posthumous albums...

    If you think of it they actually recorded a lot in the 70s.
    Good thing Richard already had ideas before they started recording. A lot of the early albums had material he'd worked on in the late 60s, right? Both their love of music and having an open ear made something like "Daddy's Home" come about I assume. After a while you can tell how immersed in music both of them were.

    You do grow to appreciate stuff like "I kept on loving you". Maybe not at first, but of course "Close to you (album)" is listed as one of the greatest albums of all time (rolling stone). You treasure the album tracks especially from that album because it was from a great, happy time for both of them.
    With their sound they could get away with maybe a bit more than other artists. I mean, there's even some kind of appeal to "Drusilla Penny" because of their unique sound. That's what I listen for if I do get around to that one. Lol
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  9. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Three come to mind for me;

    Bwana She No Home - The first time I played "Passage" and heard this I was like "WHAT??!" However, upon multiple plays it has become one of my favorites. This was a song where I believe Karen really let her hair down and just had a good time. The whole funky/sexy/humorous vibe of the song is very enchanting. I don't see why it wasn't played in discos or nightclubs back in the day. Maybe it was, I just don't remember. And I absolutely love that line delivered so coyly by Karen; "I don't care if you drive my 350 honey"!

    Another Song - Didn't know where they were going when I first heard it. Richard channeling Sgt Pepper no doubt. With Karen belting out the lyrics on that first part and then breaking into that 60s dream sequence instrumental; I must admit it has grown on me. Makes me want to break out my black light and posters again!

    Crystal Lullaby - At first to syrupy sweet even for The Carpenters, I thought. But upon further review, I realize just how magnificent it is. The way the whole track is produced, the whirling swirling dreamlike fantasy of a little girl's childhood. It tells a story. Having 4 daughters, I wish I could've played it to them before they went to bed. But that was back in my HTC (Hate The Carpenters) phase. And of course, Miss Karen delivering the lead (exquisite). Richard did a good job on the vocals as well.
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  10. Toolman

    Toolman Simple Man, Simple Dream

    "I Believe You". Thought it was excruciatingly slow at the time it was initially released. Over the years I've grown to like it quite a bit, especially the lead vocal and arrangement in the verses. There's a soulfulness there that I totally missed as a kid.
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  11. Yes, "I Believe You" didn't gel with me right away, and it took until the alternate take of the SACD to really hammer home how much I liked it.
  12. "Intermission" from A SONG FOR YOU.

    "We'll be back...after we go to the bathroom!" :D

    Richard and Karen had delightfully quirky senses of humor. :)
  13. kprather

    kprather Member

    I couldn't stand "Help" when I first heard it, but it grew on me. I especially enjoy the live version on the Japan album.
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  14. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    "Soul" appears courtesy of Paul Riser - Motown arranger extraordinaire.
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  15. song4u

    song4u Well-Known Member

    I now so love Karen's reading and sassy delivery on What Do You Get When You Fall in Love on CTY. I was so entranced by other songs on the album at the time, that I failed to appreciate it. Later I really thought it was fun.

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