JOv2
Well-Known Member
Hey, Mike -- Well, if a few words can encourage you go play a record then that's a good thing (happens to me out here all the time!) cuz records, like musical instruments, need to be played -- their cases are just temporary storage used during a resting state. Thanks for the Casino R quote, too!
Mr. Bill -- I was thinking about asking for a hatemail box, actually. (I may need it for the latter LPs!...I know I've already pissed off a few out here.) Yes the Rhodes/Boyce&Hart/Nichols thing always surprised me. I mean, it would seem like B&H and Herb would be an excellent match: Both parties were eternal showmen who seemed to love "the biz", and B&H -- more so than Emitt and unlike Roger -- were really tuned into being prolific "hit" songwriters. The combination of their addictive AM-friendly melodies with the TjB's appeal was a lost opportunity in my book. You're correct in that it would appear A&M didn't promote their LPs as much as they could have. For instance, I've yet to see any LP inner sleeves from '67-'69 that advertise B&H's 2nd and 3rd LPs!
Rickster -- You're about an LP ahead of me! I completely agree with your assessment as a good bit of conjecture. Obviously, Herb -- given his responsibilities -- would find it a difficult challenge to practice technical skills each day for an hour or so (something I mentioned on SRO; in addition, I wonder how often TjB rehearsals were held with only Tonni present due to Herb's non-trumpet commitments...of which there were probably too many to count...). And in deference to Cap'n D, I hear his technical skills beginning to deteriorate or otherwise undergo unfavourable impact immediately following GP. To me, it bottoms out on Herb Alpert's Ninth -- perhaps other Cornerite trumpet players will wish to offer detailed opinions. Understanding his tone change from GP to Ninth is a fascinating case study.
Cap'n B -- Agreed. SL is not a "great" LP per se; however, no one can deny that the TjB hit and held their peak from GP to SL -- and within this 4-LP context, these recordings are of excellent quality. Therefore, from within this 4-LP group, arguments could be made to support the hair-splitting differences of one over one other. Like you, I select SRO as the best "all-things-considered" TjB LP, but if we're emphasizing ensemble performance and/or progressive arrangments, I go with SL -- no contest.
-James
Mr. Bill -- I was thinking about asking for a hatemail box, actually. (I may need it for the latter LPs!...I know I've already pissed off a few out here.) Yes the Rhodes/Boyce&Hart/Nichols thing always surprised me. I mean, it would seem like B&H and Herb would be an excellent match: Both parties were eternal showmen who seemed to love "the biz", and B&H -- more so than Emitt and unlike Roger -- were really tuned into being prolific "hit" songwriters. The combination of their addictive AM-friendly melodies with the TjB's appeal was a lost opportunity in my book. You're correct in that it would appear A&M didn't promote their LPs as much as they could have. For instance, I've yet to see any LP inner sleeves from '67-'69 that advertise B&H's 2nd and 3rd LPs!
Rickster -- You're about an LP ahead of me! I completely agree with your assessment as a good bit of conjecture. Obviously, Herb -- given his responsibilities -- would find it a difficult challenge to practice technical skills each day for an hour or so (something I mentioned on SRO; in addition, I wonder how often TjB rehearsals were held with only Tonni present due to Herb's non-trumpet commitments...of which there were probably too many to count...). And in deference to Cap'n D, I hear his technical skills beginning to deteriorate or otherwise undergo unfavourable impact immediately following GP. To me, it bottoms out on Herb Alpert's Ninth -- perhaps other Cornerite trumpet players will wish to offer detailed opinions. Understanding his tone change from GP to Ninth is a fascinating case study.
Cap'n B -- Agreed. SL is not a "great" LP per se; however, no one can deny that the TjB hit and held their peak from GP to SL -- and within this 4-LP context, these recordings are of excellent quality. Therefore, from within this 4-LP group, arguments could be made to support the hair-splitting differences of one over one other. Like you, I select SRO as the best "all-things-considered" TjB LP, but if we're emphasizing ensemble performance and/or progressive arrangments, I go with SL -- no contest.
-James