shellyfaberes
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Sure, after the 45 CLOSE TO YOU did her voice and popularity become apparent.....but with TICKET TO RIDE the LP and even the CLOSE to YOU LP - there are TOO many songs sung by Richard. Now mind you, Richard IS an EXCEPTIONAL arranging talent and his voice is very much in PITCH... but the first two B-sides feature Richard singing...If Herb Alpert and Richard were "gung-ho" on Karen's voice, why did they allow Richard to have his vocals on these B-sides - if they were pushing or believing in Karen!
I am just asking if anybody knows "WHEN" it hit Richard at one point early in their career that KAREN was the more focal talent ......was it from him or Herbie or someone at A&M Records that said "wait a minute...."......With Richard always focused on HIS music as a child - he must have surely thought he was gonna be the star....
(PS John Bettis' first B-side credit was "Rainy Days and Monday" with SATURDAY!!!!!!! - money money money to Richard before that.....DISCUSS)
(PPS - I don't belive the "We've Only Just Begun" story about Richard seeing the commercial late at night.....the "Close To You" B-side was written by Paul Willaims and Roger Nichols and SUNG by Richard (I Kept On Loving You)...didn't Richard hear "We've Only Just Begun" with some of Paul Williams demos?????.....When did Richard discover Paul Williams???)
All I know is that Karen WAS a beautiful and lovely young lady and NO ONE should have to go thru corporate Hollywood crap and other "Company Family" people needling her down to give their life for about 2hours and 36 minutes of recorded music to be sold into reissues.
I say 2 hours and 36 minutes because anything The Carpenters recorded after "Hurting Each Other" or "Goodbye To Love" was useless and corporate easy listening...Her edge and singing spirit is GONE on the insipid "SING" and was NEVER to return!!!! Her longing and HARD vocals on "Rainy Days and Mondays" were NEVER to be matched again in something so cumbersome as "Solitaire"or "Goodbye and I Love You". In "Hurting Each Other" she sang that chorus so damned HARD and COMPELLING !!! It was never to be heard again....No- she was dealt fluff like "There's a Kind of Hush" and "Happy".............Karen ALWAYS maintained a beautiful voice BUT in their recordings from 1975 on, there was no SOUL!!!
So why didn't Richard know when the zenith was and why did he continue to lock himself and Karen into MOR....and why doesn't he go score a film or write a braodway musical - instead of teasing us with these reissues and release some damn "NEW and UNREALEASED" important moments from Karen???? It would have been her wish.....DISCUSSS....... I long for the Karen of 1971 in my own life...Shelley in West Covina
I am just asking if anybody knows "WHEN" it hit Richard at one point early in their career that KAREN was the more focal talent ......was it from him or Herbie or someone at A&M Records that said "wait a minute...."......With Richard always focused on HIS music as a child - he must have surely thought he was gonna be the star....
(PS John Bettis' first B-side credit was "Rainy Days and Monday" with SATURDAY!!!!!!! - money money money to Richard before that.....DISCUSS)
(PPS - I don't belive the "We've Only Just Begun" story about Richard seeing the commercial late at night.....the "Close To You" B-side was written by Paul Willaims and Roger Nichols and SUNG by Richard (I Kept On Loving You)...didn't Richard hear "We've Only Just Begun" with some of Paul Williams demos?????.....When did Richard discover Paul Williams???)
All I know is that Karen WAS a beautiful and lovely young lady and NO ONE should have to go thru corporate Hollywood crap and other "Company Family" people needling her down to give their life for about 2hours and 36 minutes of recorded music to be sold into reissues.
I say 2 hours and 36 minutes because anything The Carpenters recorded after "Hurting Each Other" or "Goodbye To Love" was useless and corporate easy listening...Her edge and singing spirit is GONE on the insipid "SING" and was NEVER to return!!!! Her longing and HARD vocals on "Rainy Days and Mondays" were NEVER to be matched again in something so cumbersome as "Solitaire"or "Goodbye and I Love You". In "Hurting Each Other" she sang that chorus so damned HARD and COMPELLING !!! It was never to be heard again....No- she was dealt fluff like "There's a Kind of Hush" and "Happy".............Karen ALWAYS maintained a beautiful voice BUT in their recordings from 1975 on, there was no SOUL!!!
So why didn't Richard know when the zenith was and why did he continue to lock himself and Karen into MOR....and why doesn't he go score a film or write a braodway musical - instead of teasing us with these reissues and release some damn "NEW and UNREALEASED" important moments from Karen???? It would have been her wish.....DISCUSSS....... I long for the Karen of 1971 in my own life...Shelley in West Covina