Oooops! Sorry, I meant to say: "NO PASSAGE????!!!!"
I agree...I'm confident that Karen's album sold better than Richard's solo outings, as well as 'As Time Goes By'. But I'm glad we have all of them anyway. Each brings something special to the table. And let's not forget Karen's solo stuff is readily available on I-Tunes.
I love your posts....and this sentence just popped out when I read it....for me this is so very true!!!!!!It appears to be an ongoing pursuit understanding the woman and her voice and how it relates to me.
Karen's album did sell significantly better than Richard's "Time"-and that might be a consolation for all those that love Karen's album.But,it didn't outsell "As Time Goes By".And,by the way,Karen's album has been out-of-print for eight years now.I'm confident that Karen's album sold better than Richard's solo outings, as well as 'As Time Goes By'. But I'm glad we have all of them anyway. Each brings something special to the table. And let's not forget Karen's solo stuff is readily available on I-Tunes.
There is no "grey area" or "blur" regarding Karen's album-the facts have been well-chronicled over the years.Then there's a real gray area as Richard said at Karen's "behest" the album wouldn't see release. As if beaten into submission. What a cryin' shame. Now I'm foraging resentments again or still...I'm really not certain. Here in 2013 it's all kind of a blur. Sure wish I had the magic wand for a little creative sorcery. Just enough so I could provide the great reveal. Well, maybe a little extra zap or 2 to heal a girls broken heart. It appears to be an ongoing pursuit understanding the woman and her voice and how it relates to me. Isn't fascinating that at 30 years past we still can't quite wrap our minds around the ultimate recording career and ensuing trauma? Someday I'm gonna poke around and see if Capitol Records has a Judy Garland site. There must be one somewhere. I'm curious if the twists and turns of Judy's career are still fodder for fans past and present. My guess is that here at the forum we're not so very different from Cobain's, Morrison's, Joplin's groupies.
I agree.Um..I forgot what we were talking about but if we're still weighing in our opinions on the 78/79 album that never was , I think it would've been full of potential and (based on these tracks) quite possibly one of my favorites in the catalog.
This statement might be true to the "general public."But,at the end of the day,all of this is water under the bridge.Karen's album has been out for seventeen years now-what was once a source of mystery & intrigue is now a faded memory.
With respect, I have to disagree quite strongly with this. The full story behind Karen's solo album was almost the dictionary definition of a 'grey area' until Randy Schmidt's book filled in many of the blanks a few years ago (although I suspect there is still more to the story that we don't yet know!). In the early 1990s, Richard's account of the solo album story was pretty light on details but emphasised that it was shelved 'at Karen's behest'. While this may have been technically true, it made no reference to the reasons why she made (or was bounced into making) that decision, which is obviously the key to the whole story. Likewise, when interviewed for a BBC documentary about the Carpenters in 1994, Herb Alpert was similarly evasive on the topic. When asked why the album wasn't released, he claimed not to be able to recall the reason, but thought that it was because 'she wasn't real happy with it'. This clearly wasn't true. The narrative was then finally expanded upon in Ray Coleman's book, in which a hatchet job is done on the solo album and it is presented as an all-round artistic and commercial disaster that was killed off to the benefit of all.There is no "grey area" or "blur" regarding Karen's album-the facts have been well-chronicled over the years.
A&M would not release the album as it was originally presented-and asked Karen to go back into the studio & cut new tracks.Karen thought this over-along with Richard-and decided not to spend any more time on the album.
If Karen did go back into the studio with Phil & formulate a different approach(and better material)-there's every possibility a good album could've been made & released in late 1980.
I think you are right- it must have scared them, especially Richard.You've hit the nail on the head, Rumbahbah. My feelings exactly. The solo album was shelved out of deference to Richard. It's not a perfect album, but it's damned good, and they knew it. And it scared the crap out of them.