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Small parts of Carpenters songs that hook you

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Tony, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. Chris Mills

    Chris Mills Well-Known Member

    When Karen sings the word Radio on two songs: Superstar and Yesterday Once More(Reprise). Karen wraps her vocal cords around this word with stunning effect, it's so pleasurable to listen to. Well for me it is anyway!
     
  2. For me as well. And don't forget her treatment of "melody" on that same Yesterday Once More tune...

    I know it's subtle, but I've always enjoyed Karen's vocalization of the word "me". Instead of "meeee" it's more of a "muh-eee" with a bit more emphasis on the "m". Just another thing to appreciate about our beloved Karen!
     
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  3. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    I totally agree. Lots of other great performances, but there's something extra special about 'Solitaire'.
     
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  4. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    I love 'Road Ode' as well. The melancholy but warm, engaging and conversational quality of Karen's vocal in the first two verses, especially, before the first chorus, is all at once attention-grabbing, endearing and captivating.
     
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  5. I know a lot of fans think Solitaire is slow and plodding, but to me it's her finest recording. A cavalcade of her vocal brilliance, all measures of her talent is expressed on this single track...It is an amazing work IMHO...
     
  6. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    ^^Absolutely !
    Solitaire, as many have noted is a slow-boil ballad.
    But, as I have pointed out,
    This Masquerade and I Can't Make Music
    fall under that same rubric (slow).

    But, really, Solitaire has it all.

    Interesting how the use of the Pipe Organ (Single Solitaire)
    provided the gravitas for both
    Solitaire and I Can't Make Music
    to great effect in the arrangement.

    Richard Carpenter (Solitaire, Gold Liner Notes):
    "Why I felt that those two additions
    (guitar and pipe organ)
    were worth all the trouble and expense incurred is beyond me now."
    (To this comment , I say.....wake up Richard !)
     
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  7. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    Solitaire with the added pipe organ is infinitely better than the album version.
     
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  8. CraigGA

    CraigGA Well-Known Member

    The added pipe organ and guitar added to Karen’s voice just make Solitaire soar and with each and every listen chills climb up my spine to the top of my head. It is exactly what the song needed for radio play. I wish I had heard this single version on the radio each time, but often the album version was played. I do feel that had there been television promotion on for it the single would have reached the top ten. Karen looked great for TV that year. It was opposite a typical summer song, but it a strong ballad, and sometimes those strong opposites make a difference!
     
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  9. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    When we hear the doubling of Karen's background vocals:
    "...on my own way..."
    in Somebody's Been Lying.....

    I'd like to hear more of that type of "background" on Made In America....
     
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  10. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    Ray Liotta used to be on the soap I watched growing up.... It was the Carpenters, Mary Tyler Moore, and Another World for me... A triple header in the 70's!
     
  11. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    I liked that reading of the word, Solitaire, for sure, but there's another one that was equally as mesmerizing to me - on the final chorus when the double Karen's and maybe Richard - sort of reverberates on the first syllable of SOLitaire... just before 'And keeping to himself he plays the game'... it's a very climactic portion of the song, and I love the vocal arrangement as well as the musical crescendo...
     
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  12. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    Agreed.... Similarly to that tune, I like the intimacy on An Uninvited Guest. The versus on that song are a vocal triumph for me... Those little cracks in her annunciation... it really is like she is sitting right there next to you as so many have said through the years...
     
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  13. Like your comment on Road Ode. A nice little hidden gem on the great "A Song For You" album. Karen, once again, nailing the emotional aspects of the lyrics. The fact that the song was written by a couple of her "Spectrum" bandmates was a big plus. I'm sure Gary Sims and Danny Woodhams must have been blown away that the best female singer in the world at that time, was going to record their song and put it on the album.
     
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  14. ThaFunkyFakeTation

    ThaFunkyFakeTation Ah am so steel een luv weeth yoo

    It's a decent tune. I know what they were going for but, IMHO, the lyric is pretty rough. It's like they knew what they wanted to say but had trouble saying it. Unfortunately, with a fantastic singer like Karen, lyrical flaws are spotlighted and they are for me here. The song feels very much to me like "We've Only Just Begun" sideways - especially the chorus. I do like the chord changes though.

    Ed
     
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  15. David A

    David A Active Member

    Agreed, on all counts - the lyrics on this make it tough to sing smoothly, but I like the "story" the lyrics attempt to portray. Your "It's like they knew what they wanted to say but had trouble saying it" sums my view as well.
     
  16. AM Matt

    AM Matt Well-Known Member

    On the Bacharach/David Medley from 1971, you can hear "woah, woah, woah.....wahhhhhhhhh" & then the instrumental part comes in & someone is laughing!! Matt Clark Sanford, MI
     
  17. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    That laughter was not spontaneous, it was contrived for the record, the same as it was on Jambalaya. Never liked it and it sounded awful whenever performed live. Same as Karen's "yee ha's!"
     
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