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Which songs are on that single? The best that I can get for the Del Amor is “of love you only get” and “a love song”
one of my favourite singles, so glad to get this, but nice sleeve
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Which songs are on that single? The best that I can get for the Del Amor is “of love you only get” and “a love song”
The write up on the back is very interesting. First, there is the creative spelling of fantastic ("phantastic??" LOL!!). Second, it actually refers to the group as a QUINTET with Dan, Doug and Bob being counted as official members of the actual group (as opposed to just backing musicians). That's the first time I have ever seen that.
If ever anything screamed "bootleg", ^ that would have to be it.
A very similar photo (obviously from the same shoot) did make it to the cover of a Japanese compilation. If I could figure out how to post a photo of it, I would, since I have it in my collection.everytime I look at this, I always think this would have made a nice cover of an album, or certainly a part of it!
I think Karen looks stunning in this photo
Let's say it's a grey market item. Look at the songs in the track list. Look familiar? Yep, it's that HORIZON album again, jumbled up, with a few hits tacked on.
We're not sure what happened with HORIZON, but there are many non-official releases out there with the tracks to HORIZON jumbled up, mostly in Europe. There are many examples of these,
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...is another one on eBay. These pop up from time to time and all are unofficial, essentially pirated (legally in thesew other countries), and usually made from inferior recordings. Something odd must have happened with the copyright to that album in Europe - that's as much as I know.
A very similar photo (obviously from the same shoot) did make it to the cover of a Japanese compilation. If I could figure out how to post a photo of it, I would, since I have it in my collection.
Yes this looks like a bootleg for sure. Also just because it's on Amazon doesn't mean it's an official release, Amazon is known for selling bootleg CDs and DVDs.
If ever anything screamed "bootleg", ^ that would have to be it.
Speaking of that Horizon track listing that seems to make it's rounds in the bootleg world...I remember long before the internet I had ordered some Carpenters CD's and only had titles (no pictures) from a mail order company, one of the titles was The Carpenters Radio Years. I said to myself hmm I don't have that one so I ordered it. I didn't know any better and didn't have anyone to ask or any reference to be sure it was an official release. Sure enough down the road I learned it was a bootleg. I still have it (not sure why) but never play it, the sound is terrible.
I just pulled it out of my CD collection and on the back of the jewel case it says:
Licensed from: The Henry Hadaway Organisatinon.
(yes that's how it's spelled) not sure who they are?
Here is a picture of what it looks like and it's on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Years-Carpenters/dp/B00002497G
As I mentioned earlier, I've never pulled that CD off my shelf in quite a long time but yesterday made me curious who is this Henry Hadaway Organisatinon that's mentioned on the back of this CD. I did a google search and it actually stands for HHO spelled Henry Hadaway Organisation and their website says:
"HHO is one of the UK's longest running independent multimedia companies, with over 45 years in the business.
HHO owns and controls one of the largest independent multimedia catalogues of copyrights in the world, consisting of over 1000 audio-visual titles and over audio 20,000 titles. Audio and Visual master rights are available worldwide for both physical and digital licenses. HHO additionally controls an extensive publishing catalogue. Other provided services include finished product manufacturing (available for export), branding design and digital distribution services for bespoke labels."
So now I'm really confused, because maybe this Carpenters Radio Years is not really a bootleg after all. Can anyone shed some more light on this subject? It appears they had the rights to publish and sell physical CD's of this work, maybe not the Carpenters logo but some master tape. I also don't understand why would A&M UK allow a licensed Horizon album to be sold to this independent label?
So is this technically a bootleg?
So if it doesn't have a Carpenters logo, it's possible the licensed audio was bought out and rights were given to allow it to be sold? I really have no idea.
One rule of thumb on these odd compilations is to look for some sign of either an A&M logo, a PolyGram logo, or a Universal logo. Those are the three main companies licensed to issue Carpenters recordings. There are exceptions of course, like Readers Digest, that EMI set from the UK, and budget labels like Karussel, Spectrum, Festival, MFP, etc., but even those will usually point back to A&M or Universal.
On Japanese discs, look for a Jasrac logo to determine if its official.
Another check is to look for the CᴬᴿᴾᴱᴺᵀᴱᴿS logo. Richard has in the past, struck down bootleg releases that used the official logo, but even that is not a guarantee. You have to check all of these things if you want to avoid spending good money on fake product.
Remember - anyone, anywhere, can make a CD and slap artwork on it. That doesn't make it desirable to own.
I really like that Now & Then alternate photo, it would have been great to include that for the inner LP jacket.had a couple of vinyls arrive this morning and given how `plain` some of their covers are, it was nice to see this one with some `activity` and colour in it;
haven't seen many of these around either. `horizon` from Taiwan.
Interesting sleeves. On some of the posts, i see the images and on others, all I see is IMG with no image at all. Does anyone know if I need to adjust something my end or is it a problem with the posting.