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Official Review [Album]: "HORIZON" (SP-4530)

HOW WOULD YOU RATE THIS ALBUM?

  • ***** (BEST)

    Votes: 42 48.8%
  • ****

    Votes: 30 34.9%
  • ***

    Votes: 10 11.6%
  • **

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • *

    Votes: 2 2.3%

  • Total voters
    86

GaryAlan

Well-Known Member
^^Apparently, that review fell on deaf ears, as Horizon performed exceptionally well on the UK chart.
I wonder if that reviewer felt the same regards the Tan-Carpenters- LP ? Timing at 29 minutes, 36 sec.
That review misses far too much of the best qualities of the album. For instance,
while Only Yesterday may have been released (by that time) as a single--the version on the album
is not the same as the single version--the reviewer fails to note the difference.
"value for the money," I do not know how the reviewer defines that term.... !
Horizon album sounds incredible. I rarely--if ever--think of its brevity.
Jerry Moss apparently felt the same:
"To have that voice on A&M records was really a thrill.."
 

GaryAlan

Well-Known Member
^^You make an excellent point !
Curiously, Coleman writes this:
" A letter congratulating Richard on his production of Horizon came from an unexpected source,
Jerry Moss." (page 181).
 

newvillefan

I Know My First Name Is Stephen
Curiously, Coleman writes this:
" A letter congratulating Richard on his production of Horizon came from an unexpected source,
Jerry Moss." (page 181).
I always interpreted that as meaning Jerry Moss didn’t have a lot of time for Richard.
 

Rick-An Ordinary Fool

Well-Known Member
Here's something interesting. We know that the 1975 Japanese and European tours were cancelled. Here is a ticket stub that was generated but due to the tours being cancelled stub was unused. What's interesting is that it says on the bottom of the ticket stub:

"A Hiroshima TV Presentation 1975"

So I would have to imagine that had this tour not been cancelled that many of the concerts in Japan would have been filmed for broadcast on TV. It's also possible that it could have been made into a VHS tape or DVD like what happen with Live at Budokan. It's also very possible that since this tour was to promote the album that we would have live versions of many of the songs off the Horizon album. Can you imagine?

This ebay listing is specifically saying this stub was for the Horizon tour (maybe lotus can help with some of the Japanese wordings)
See here for all 6 pics.
THE Carpenters 1975 Horizon Cancelled Japan Tour Ticket Stub(Hiroshima) Rare!! | eBay

 

adam

Active Member
Here's something interesting. We know that the 1975 Japanese and European tours were cancelled. Here is a ticket stub that was generated but due to the tours being cancelled stub was unused. What's interesting is that it says on the bottom of the ticket stub:

"A Hiroshima TV Presentation 1975"

So I would have to imagine that had this tour not been cancelled that many of the concerts in Japan would have been filmed for broadcast on TV. It's also possible that it could have been made into a VHS tape or DVD like what happen with Live at Budokan. It's also very possible that since this tour was to promote the album that we would have live versions of many of the songs off the Horizon album. Can you imagine?

This ebay listing is specifically saying this stub was for the Horizon tour (maybe lotus can help with some of the Japanese wordings)
See here for all 6 pics.
THE Carpenters 1975 Horizon Cancelled Japan Tour Ticket Stub(Hiroshima) Rare!! | eBay
HI
According to craig halsteads bookCarpenters all the top 40 hits.Horizion topped zimbabwe Album charts for 9 weels.Quite impressive
 

GaryAlan

Well-Known Member
Returning to the Horizon review above (Chris, post #551),
entitled "Short Cut Carpenter." The reviewer does an injustice to the album, in my opinion.
Is the shorter (by 5 min) 1971 self-titled Tan album held in higher esteem ?
Not to knock the tan album, but, it still appears to me that having three hit-singles
on an album (Superstar, For All We Know, Rainy Days and Mondays) does not automatically
make it a better album. I love those three songs, but an "album" is more than just that !
Horizon is so much more than just hit singles or playing time.
 

A&M Retro

Well-Known Member
Returning to the Horizon review above (Chris, post #551),
entitled "Short Cut Carpenter." The reviewer does an injustice to the album, in my opinion.
Is the shorter (by 5 min) 1971 self-titled Tan album held in higher esteem ?
Not to knock the tan album, but, it still appears to me that having three hit-singles
on an album (Superstar, For All We Know, Rainy Days and Mondays) does not automatically
make it a better album. I love those three songs, but an "album" is more than just that !
Horizon is so much more than just hit singles or playing time.
Agreed. The writer was just looking for something to bitch about. He knows the album is top notch.
 

Jarred

Well-Known Member
Hearing the album again as a whole after a long while I’m beginning to understand the faults people have with it, besides the technical which no one can deny is pristine.

As @newvillefan has mentioned Karen’s voice is as lush and warm as ever but her approach here is almost too lush, too dreamy and lacking the stridency we hear in 73/74. Normally this wouldn’t be an issue but it kind of expands upon the issues with some songs instead of alleviating them. Because the ballads are generally “draggy”, her voice underlines that either the arrangements or songs themselves don’t really grab you like you wish they did. The contrast in tone (vocally and musically) from two years prior is staggering as their baroque era was overall over. I think another issue is that some arrangements are almost too sparse, too clean so to speak, they don’t always build drama or tension like they should, and we’re back to Karen’s laid back approach which doesn’t quicken the pace any.

Highlights are still Desperado (she doesn’t quite sing it with the direct yearning I remember but with a resigned acceptance despite her plea), Only Yesterday (still glistens and shimmers with life even if I can see why some find it too produced), Postman (doesn’t belong anywhere on the album but still a classic), I Can Dream (the dreamy approach is completely justified here as it should sound like a dream), and Goodbye and I Love You (suffers from a kind of bland arrangement but still feels fresh and a great lyric).
 
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