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Karen's Theme

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Proudofyou, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. Proudofyou

    Proudofyou Member Thread Starter

    Have we/you ever discussed this gem? It's one of the few instrumentals I can actually write my own lyrics to (but too shy to share). Anyway, gorgeous, moving piece.
  2. AM Matt

    AM Matt Well-Known Member

    Back when Richard Carpenter second solo CD came out, Elder - Beerman where I work when I was folding towels used to play that song on the speakers!! Matt Clark Sanford, MI
  3. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    I never really found “Karen’s Theme” to be all that great. It’s rather dark and depressing. Really the opposite of what I think of Karen Carpenter. I even recall wondering why it was included on the “Carpenters Perform Carpenter” compilation when better tributes by Richard, like “When Time Was All We Had” or “Calling Your Name Again”, or even “Time” could’ve been included.
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  4. Dano

    Dano New Member

    I believe that Richard went and completed Karen’s Theme for his second solo album. It was a shorter piece used in the TV movie. My personal thoughts of why it was included in the compilation are:

    Richard’s solo album sadly didn’t sell as well as it should. (Really wish it had)

    The track had never been included in a compilation release.

    The compilation tracks were either written by or performed by one of the Carpenter duo.

    It was a bookend to finish the album. Something they did with many of their releases.

    I am with you that the tracks you listed are all equally tribute based from Richard to Karen. Richard sadly felt for some reason his lead vocal/or solo tracks are not in favour. I respectfully disagree as I love his voice and singing style. I wish he had sung more. I think Time was a solid effort and wished he had done further albums with lead vocals.

    I especially love his lead vocals on the second Carpenters Christmas album. I feel due to poor sales of his solo efforts, we were robbed so much of Richard’s talents throughout the years. (Except for the Carpenter albums/compilations he oversaw)

    I hope in future releases he may put some of his solo leads into a compilation. He was recently on TV and titled as singer Richard Carpenter...yep they got it right!
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2019
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  5. I'd love that, too. Hopefully it would include the ones he apparently recorded in the early 1980s, such as "Some Guys Have All The Luck" and "Fool Me."
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  6. Jarred

    Jarred Active Member

    I don't think it's supposed to encapsulate her so much as mourn the loss of her life, her vibrancy. It's such a beautiful piece and always makes me tear up, especially once I put joyful clips of Karen with the song in a video. It's gorgeous, warm, wistful, reflective, and at the end there's a swell of optimism - I would say all describe Karen perfectly.
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  7. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    I think “Calling Your Name Again” or “When Time Was All We Had” Do that a lot better than “Karen’s Theme”. “Karen’s Theme” reminds me of the organ music they play at funeral homes.
  8. Jarred

    Jarred Active Member

    WTWAWH is a beautiful little piece too (the only worthwhile song at all on Time), but somehow the absence of a voice on Karen's Theme is more powerful. A voice is no longer here and all we have is music and memories to try and fill the painful void of her being missing.
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  9. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but Karen’s Theme really should’ve just been left as background music. I think it did an injustice to her memory.
  10. Jarred

    Jarred Active Member

    I think "an injustice to her memory" is a bit extreme, as it's just an instrumental with her name attached to it.
  11. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Well-Known Member

    It’s an injustice.
  12. Jarred

    Jarred Active Member

    Oh, okay. If you say so, brah.
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  13. GaryAlan

    GaryAlan Well-Known Member

    I am listening to the Richard Carpenter: Pianist, Arranger, Composer, Conductor.
    Not only is Karen's Theme a fine conclusion to this album, the song
    certainly "fits" the description of pianist, arranger, composer and conductor.....
    as all of those things were accomplished with the instrumental "Karen's Theme."
    Again, view the song as a "piece" of an entire ALBUM,
    and, it FITS. (and, yes, the song was specifically finished for this album,
    an album which had been requested by A&M Japan, upon success of The 22-Hits cd).
    By the way, I enjoy this album.
    It is soothing.
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