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Make Your Own Kind Of Music

Harry

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[Separated these out from another thread.]
 

Kaisu

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I can only add two things:
(1) If you read the Interviews regarding the "making" of the 1978 Television Special,
Space Encounters, both Karen and Richard are exceptionally pleased with the results.
Pleased, that is, if the interview is taken at face-value (excerpts are on the Forum).
In fact, regards the Weintraub TV Specials, Richard and Karen seem always to be pleased with the results.
Richard, in particular, seemed to enjoy "making" the specials as much as Karen--however,
his enjoyment does not transfer to the television screen. (He rarely appears happy in concert, either).
(2) Recalling the first time I heard "My Body Keeps Changing My Mind",
after purchase of From The Top CD-Set, it was indeed a revelation !
Karen could do so much more than we were "used to hearing" at that point in time.
Who cares what type of music it is "labelled" ?
Karen's vocal prowess on the song surpass any negative issue about the song (imho).
As with Rumbahbah, I never felt there was that much Disco on Karen's solo work.

He seems to enjoy performing in this number though... Could be a rare coincidence or maybe his faking it.
 

GaryAlan

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Who would have thought ? Druscilla Penny on Television !
Thanks for the clip Kaisu, I was not aware of it !
Now....that is a rotten choice for any television show....imho.
 

Carpe diem

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He seems to enjoy performing in this number though... Could be a rare coincidence or maybe his faking it.
Another bad lip-synced segment from the very dreadful summer TV replacement MYOKOM. The only good thing from that show was a very good thing; the live medley of Karen at the piano with Richard. The rest is dreck.
 

tomswift2002

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With MYOKOM even though it’s never been released on home video it’s got to have been re-aired at some point in the VCR era.
 

Harry

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No, I don't think so. It was a summer series meant to be a place-holder for THE DON KNOTTS SHOW. Variety series were generally not rerun for the full summer as the guests would have to be paid again for the second run. So the US networks would either find a substitute host, or another show entirely, to keep the time-slot alive during the summer months.

A good example of this was when Glen Campbell hosted a summer series while THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS were on their summer hiatus. The Glen Campbell-hosted show went over so well that it became a full-time series on CBS.

These summer replacement series were truly throw-away entertainment, never meant to be seen again. They were just "of the moment". Since it aired in 1971, there were very few, if any, consumer video recorders on the market at that time. Only the richest of the rich could afford the giant videotape recorders of the day, and they probably weren't spending their time - or their tape - on an NBC summer series.

The videos that we do see come from leftover tapes that languish in vaults that have surfaced enough for someone to attempt a VHS or Beta dub years later. Then copies of copies. Obviously Richard and/or A&M must have kept copies as they used some of the "videos" for commercial release.
 

tomswift2002

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No, I don't think so. It was a summer series meant to be a place-holder for THE DON KNOTTS SHOW. Variety series were generally not rerun for the full summer as the guests would have to be paid again for the second run. So the US networks would either find a substitute host, or another show entirely, to keep the time-slot alive during the summer months.

A good example of this was when Glen Campbell hosted a summer series while THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS were on their summer hiatus. The Glen Campbell-hosted show went over so well that it became a full-time series on CBS.

These summer replacement series were truly throw-away entertainment, never meant to be seen again. They were just "of the moment". Since it aired in 1971, there were very few, if any, consumer video recorders on the market at that time. Only the richest of the rich could afford the giant videotape recorders of the day, and they probably weren't spending their time - or their tape - on an NBC summer series.

The videos that we do see come from leftover tapes that languish in vaults that have surfaced enough for someone to attempt a VHS or Beta dub years later. Then copies of copies. Obviously Richard and/or A&M must have kept copies as they used some of the "videos" for commercial release.
Sure it was meant as a summer replacement series, but how do we know that it wasn’t re-aired in syndication at some point in the early mornings of the 80’s or 90’s, or even aired in the late-70’s or early-80’s in a foreign country English-speaking country?
 

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I'm confident that it never aired anywhere else, ever. But if you'd like to do further research and prove that assertion wrong, by all means go ahead.

Addendum: it possibly aired on the Armed Forces Network somewhere around the world, but likely only that summer.
 

Kaisu

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Sorry to derail the discussion again from disco mania to another topic. I went and watched a video on youtube called "make your own kind of music highlights (1971). Crappy video quality and early 70's color palette was burning my eyes but it was fun to see Karen playing drums. The hamming of the tambourine was something else though...
 

GaryAlan

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Oh, a bit off topic for the thread.....
Never heard this before....presumably 1971 audio from Make Your Own Kind Of Music,
Ticket To Ride:
 

Carpe diem

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Here is another clip from MYOKOM that is stupidly unfunny. Look at the reactions of Karen, you can just tell she is ill at ease and forcing herself through this;


Karen's ultimate recollection of MYOKOM; Interviewed for FM100 some years later, Karen recalled the NBC endeavor as a mistake, saying they were "violently mishandled. Our TV exposure was disastrous. We realized it immediately, and we shied away from television".
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Randy L. Schmidt, Little Girl Blue, pg 81

Leaving the question...what kind of incompetent "management" were they under at this time?
 

GaryAlan

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Regarding the issue of being mishandled by management:
Did management choose the song Druscilla Penny for that Television episode ?
There were only eight episodes of the summer series--MYOKOM.
It--that is, the Carpenters' being on MYOKOM--hardly made any impact, to my knowledge.
Did management choose Saturday for the Robert Young Special ?
Did Weintraub management choose Goofus or Man Smart, Woman Smarter for the 1978 special ?

Many of those early Carpenters Television spots were excellent:
Carol Burnett, Tom Jones, Bob Hope...
 

GaryAlan

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So, I have been watching every Video I can find of the
Make Your Own Kind Of Music program.
My verdict: Release on DVD !
This material--especially the MUSIC--is well worth watching.

Yes--I'll get hammered for this--
but, it (the program) is not as bad as it is made out to be !
And, that so-called
"Medley" never was 'aired' as one entire song, from what I can view.
 

tomswift2002

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Yikes! That nurse sketch is awful.
Who wrote that?! Lol
I don't think that nurse sketch, as it is presented in that video, was aired as one whole segment. It looks like that video was made up of multiple sketches. Although, considering that I'm not from the early-70's, I did not get the jokes.
 

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Now....that is a rotten choice for any television show....imho.

Put yourself into the time period in question. It's the summer of 1971. Carpenters have exactly three albums and a Christmas single in the can. So all totaled, there were 35 non-Christmas songs available for this television program.

Now next one must understand that Carpenters were only two of a set of rotating stars/hosts of this show. Each one got to do something on every episode. Karen AND Richard shared duties in this series, and generally performed as a duo or part of the larger stage group that we see. Other hosts were Al Hirt, Mark Lindsay, comedians Patchett & Tarses, and musical group, The Doodletown Pipers.

Each episode went through the alphabet, doing a segment for each letter. With "X", there aren't very many words that start with X, so they came up with the X-ray bit. Each week, they'd throw one of these short sketches in for the letter X. A different one each week.

This was the era of ROWAN & MARTIN's LAUGH-IN, where short "blackout" sketches became the "in" thing, so this show incorporated them for some of the letters of the alphabet.

Since Richard was one of the hosts, when it came turn for him to perform, there weren't a whole lot of Richard-only songs in the Carpenters three-album repertoire, so "Druscilla Penny" and "Saturday" and "I Kept On Loving You" would be naturals, assuming they didn't want to dig too far into the failed album TICKET TO RIDE/OFFERING.
 
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GaryAlan

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Found much detail here:
The Carpenters TV Show

Songs and airdates:
"Close to You , Reason to Believe, We've Only Just Begun, New World Coming"
September 7
"Bless the Beasts and Children, Superstar, Ticket to Ride, I Wanna Be Free"
August 31
"All I Can Do, Let Me Be the One, Trains and Boats and Planes, Maybe It's You"
August 24
"Rainy Days and Mondays" Baby It's You"
August 10
"Don't Be Afraid, Hideaway, I Kept on Loving You, Love is Surrender, What's the Use"
August 3
"Bacharach/David medley, One Love, Drusilla Penny"
July 27
"Help, For All We Know, Mr. Guder, I Kept on Loving You, Wishin' and Hopin' "
July 20
"We've Only Just Begun, Close to You, Rainy Days and Mondays"
 

Must Hear This Album

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I confess I find most of the YouTube clips endearing time-capsules, per some of the above commentaries (although some of the sketches were cringe-worthy, especially the nurse skit featuring the Mama Cass’ x-ray, where Karen pulled out an extended x-ray image to “widen” the frame, poking fun at Cass’ weight. Ugh.).

One thing I’ll posit, however, about the Make Your Own Kind Of Music series; while the duo clearly regretted doing it, I suspect the weekly, national television exposure was largely responsible for driving-up sales for the tan album (which became their biggest seller, non-compilation, in the US).
 

Another Son

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I would be happy to see a lot of 'Make Your Own Kind of Music' released. Although Karen looks awkward for some of the songs, such as when she is standing to sing 'Superstar' and 'One Love', I really like the clips where she performs from behind the drums. The 70s costumes look good, too - but not the parachute that Karen wears for one of the songs or the dress that they squeezed her into for 'Superstar'. No wonder she looks awkward. She was probably embarrassed. The bright pant suits look good, though. I think the skits should be left out, except when Karen plays the drums, and that the 'medley' of short songs should definitely be included.
 
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John Tkacik

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Found much detail here:
The Carpenters TV Show

Songs and airdates:
"Close to You , Reason to Believe, We've Only Just Begun, New World Coming"
September 7
"Bless the Beasts and Children, Superstar, Ticket to Ride, I Wanna Be Free"
August 31
"All I Can Do, Let Me Be the One, Trains and Boats and Planes, Maybe It's You"
August 24
"Rainy Days and Mondays" Baby It's You"
August 10
"Don't Be Afraid, Hideaway, I Kept on Loving You, Love is Surrender, What's the Use"
August 3
"Bacharach/David medley, One Love, Drusilla Penny"
July 27
"Help, For All We Know, Mr. Guder, I Kept on Loving You, Wishin' and Hopin' "
July 20
"We've Only Just Begun, Close to You, Rainy Days and Mondays"
 

John Tkacik

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Looking at the 10 YouTube videos of the Carpenters' segments, video #8 also has "Your Wonderful Parade" on the same episode a few letters before "Bless The Beasts And Children".
 

Carpe diem

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The skits for this show were asinine, the "canned" laughter irritating, the awful wardrobe of Karen, the lip-syncing (if they were allowed to perform their tunes "live" it would've been outstanding). The whole concept of having performers sitting on letters 15 feet in the air was dumb also. "violently mishandled" is an understatement.
 
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