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Small parts of Carpenters songs that hook you

Discussion in 'A Song For You: The Carpenters Forum' started by Tony, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. `dreams are like wine and I am drunk with mine`
    just a nice line and apt for Karen!
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  2. Tony

    Tony Active Member Thread Starter

    Yesterday I fixated on the ending of "I Won't Last a Day Without You", the harmony bit that closes the song. I've heard that part a thousand times, but for whatever reason it sounded fresh yesterday and I played it at least 20 times in a row. The lovely harmonies and the subtle swell on the word 'you', done with no vibrato, brings a satisfying closure to the song for me. It's a little piece of perfection.
  3. natureaker

    natureaker Active Member

    In Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing, at around the 2:20 mark:
    "Though havin' it (havin' it)
    Sharin' it (sharin' it)
    ain't quite the same".
    Another one in Someday, the very first verse hooks me from the second that Karen's vocal comes in. Such a magical song!
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  4. Had one of these today. At the fade of "Kiss Me"..... that little delay and teeny syncopation during the chorus:

    "Kiss me .. (hesitate) .... yeah! ... the way you did last night...."

    Yup. Replayed it at least half a dozen times.
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  5. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    I am really late to the party on this thread...but the topic is too great to pass up! Too many memorable bits from The Carpenters that endear them to me but here goes...the last line "if only in my dreams..." on I'll Be Home For Christmas breaks my heart and the tears start to flow every time guaranteed. The middle break on Crescent Noon comes out of nowhere and is absolutely beautiful harmony from Richard and Karen. On This Masquerade, the exquisite piano/flute solos are highlighted by the duo coming in with that "Ouoooowoooohoooo". And of course, Karen's SEXY vocals on the same track. The french horn and harmonica intros on Superstar and Rainy Days & Mondays respectively. Also, I have always loved the way Karen sang "and" on a lot of these songs (example: On Top Of The World).
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  6. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    oooops...Top Of The World
  7. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    The strings that come in just after the second time Karen sings that line are sublime. I can't really put into words what that moment makes me feel, it's heaven.
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  8. Mark-T

    Mark-T Well-Known Member

    Richard is an amazing arranger!
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  9. on the carpenters/como medley I always get goosebumps and it hits me when Karen sings "And yes I know how lonely Life can be, the shadows follow me and the nights won't set me free" she sings it with a huge amount of emotion like she has experienced it. Beautiful and chilling.
  10. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    I completely agree. A lot of these "nuances" that make their sound so memorable to us is the result of painstaking effort on the part of Richard Carpenter; sweating the details during the arrangement. The harmonies, the piano interludes, strings, overdubbing of vocals, etc; were all micromanaged by Richard to an incredibly high standard.
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  11. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    I loved that song when Como sang it...I was not aware that it was recorded by the duo. I am going to have to hear that version "real quick". What CD/album is it on? I'm sure I can get it on YouTube...
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  12. K.C. Jr

    K.C. Jr Well-Known Member

    As Time Goes By, "Carpenters/Como Medley"
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  13. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    Thank you Thank you!
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  14. K.C. Jr

    K.C. Jr Well-Known Member

    You're very welcome! :)
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  15. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    "Got my house, got my fancy cars.... everything's goin' like I planned so far..."

    For some reason, that line really grabs me....
  16. I like when Karen sings ' I just fall in love again' , after the second verse and then into the chorus
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  17. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    that's pure goose-bumps....
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  18. Tony

    Tony Active Member Thread Starter

    I'm probably atypical in comparison to most others on this forum because I will sometimes go weeks without listening to the Carpenters. But when I do, things often sound remarkably fresh to my ears. Yesterday I had to do a two-hour drive and I took along The Singles: 1969-1973 CD, something I haven't listened to in years. I'd forgotten about the prelude that opens the album, and I was absolutely amazed how beautiful it sounded after not having heard it for so long. Karen's little snippet of "Close to You" is simply gorgeous. Very little percussion is used, just cymbals and high-hat, but it's done to good effect. And the instrumental variation on "Superstar", particularly the strings, is nothing short of enchanting. I've played it at least 50 times since yesterday.
  19. theninjarabbit

    theninjarabbit Well-Known Member

    It's true! I have so much other music in the rotation, sometimes it's a little while before I hear my favorite duo again. I pulled out my GOLD anniversary disc for the first time in a bit, and all of the songs enchanted me. That's the magic of Carpenters at work.
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  20. The section of "Rainy Days and Mondays" when Karen sings the first "funny how it seems I always wind up here with you..." and the following string flourishes represents, to my ears, the single most glorious moment in the Carpenters' recording history.
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  21. newvillefan

    newvillefan Well-Known Member

    I was taken by that snippet of Close To You the very first time I heard it. On the word "time" (every time, you are near), Karen doesn't quite hit the note bang on, but it makes it all the more charming, even better than the original. I'm sure when a lot of people heard the album in 1973, they must have been confused to hear this opening, as the track list showed the album starting with We've Only Just Begun.
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  22. Tony

    Tony Active Member Thread Starter

    Yes, better than the original. I've been fixated on her tone on this since Friday, particularly on the words "why" and "appear". I don't think of myself as having OCD, but when it comes to the Carpenters I find that I occasionally do become ridiculously obsessive.

    And I forgot to mention earlier how much I love the harp on this prelude. Heavenly.
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  23. Tapdancer

    Tapdancer Active Member

    And the explanation is perfectly simple: Carpenters music is ridiculously beautiful.
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  24. Carpe diem

    Carpe diem Well-Known Member

    The song Two Sides, I love the part where Karen does the duet with the guitar. Very unique and a nice touch. And of course that final "goodbye" that fades and she holds so long, legendary...
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  25. BarryT60

    BarryT60 Well-Known Member

    Funny that this topic came to the top of the heap this morning, as I intended to bring it up today as well!

    So - yesterday was fathers day and I decided to wear my Carpenters T-Shirt to breakfast with my sons... and to validate the thought, I set my iPhone on Carpenters for my early morning run....

    Listened to Horizon and found two songs, and actually two lines, particularly, that I re-listened to three or four times....

    Much has been said about the "devil and the deep blue sea" line of I'm Caught Between Goodbye and I Love You - and damn - if it doesn't get to me every time... That song really is special. In today's world - I would hope that they'd have released that as a country single. (Footnote: I do wish however, they'd have changed the lyric to "I've been thinking these past few weeks" instead of days. Realistically, does anyone decide to leave in a matter of days?) :wink:

    But the real impetus for my note today is the last song, Love Me For What I Am... The choice Karen made at the very end, when she repeats that line, "You're really not in love" in almost a whisper to her partner, is so perfect. So utterly personal and touching... 6 syllables of pure realization and resolve - that it just took me by surprise after all these years.

    Makes me wonder if she made that choice on the spot - or decided to use that treatment on rehearsals... Just really a sweet delivery. and one I couldn't wait to mention here today!

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