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Harry said:Dave's probably confused.
As the Captain said ... This is not about what "belongs". This is about personal preference. With that in mind, I can honestly say that Tijuana Taxi & Spanish Flea DEFINETLY belong on my list. And if it wasn't for Zorba The Greek, those 2 would have #1 and #2. The only list where you can truthfully say that Tijuana Taxi & Spanish Flea don't belong would be your own.thetijuanataxi said:I still say TIJUANA TAXI and SPANISH FLEA don't belong on this thread.
David
audiofile said:I was just throwing around some playful humor. Guess I should of added the smileys........ :|
Captaindave said:I think this is a great thread...for me, it makes me think critically and evaluate what I actually like, listen to, and why. It makes me focus on the merits of the music itself and not simply the artist...Great stuff...IMHO.
JO said:Captaindave said:I think this is a great thread...for me, it makes me think critically and evaluate what I actually like, listen to, and why. It makes me focus on the merits of the music itself and not simply the artist...Great stuff...IMHO.
I agree with Cap'n D -- this TjB thread may be one of the finest yet. It's really opened up some fascinating discussion. Thanks, audiophile!
Captaindave said:I think this is a great thread...for me, it makes me think critically and evaluate what I actually like, listen to, and why. It makes me focus on the merits of the music itself and not simply the artist.
All those things are important artistic evaluation skills, and would be part of any music appreciation class.
I think it is interesting and stimulating to express my own opinions, and to read and evaluate the opinions of others, and see how they interrelate with my own. I improve my own abilities to express myself with clarity and precision, to examine my own opinions and thoughts, and to find out what others think about areas of common interest. Great stuff...IMHO.
toeknee4bz said:Captaindave said:I think this is a great thread...for me, it makes me think critically and evaluate what I actually like, listen to, and why. It makes me focus on the merits of the music itself and not simply the artist.
All those things are important artistic evaluation skills, and would be part of any music appreciation class.
I think it is interesting and stimulating to express my own opinions, and to read and evaluate the opinions of others, and see how they interrelate with my own. I improve my own abilities to express myself with clarity and precision, to examine my own opinions and thoughts, and to find out what others think about areas of common interest. Great stuff...IMHO.
Well said, and I agree. But speaking out of the 'other side of my mouth', I must say that there will never be a consensus on every selection... The old expression "To each his own..." comes to mind.
Full disclosure regarding 'music appreciation': I was last exposed to Music Theory in 1986. Honestly, I don't know how I passed the class, because I was just hanging on for dear life during the whole thing! All of this constant examining of "how many sharps or flats are in the key of C", etc.,... Forget it. One thing it did teach me, however, is that I don't have any appreciation for the 'mechanics' of composition. I will never be a composer, and if for nothing but that personal discovery, the class was worth taking. Enough about me.
Herb Alpert, for all of his musical accolades, achievement, formal training, etc., has had one distinct, consistent identity in his performance: He Breaks ALL the Rules. Just watch the LIVE AT MONTREUX DVD, and tell me that any formally trained trumpet player 'flops' their fingers all the way across the valves. Most trumpeters I've asked have said you're supposed to put your finger TIPS (not your knuckles) on the valves... Bottom line: WHO CARES? Technique is not his concern, and I couldn't care less either. He just plays what he feels. It just sounds good.
IMHO, the songs in this thread should be evaluated, even negatively, through the mindset of the finished product, not the process. Herb himself once said, "Musical composition isn't a theoretical exercise." I suspect that he feels the same way about the performance itself.
I know there are several legitimate musicians here, and believe me, I respect your superior musical abilities (for the record, I haven't played my guitar in years, so I envy you).
All I'm trying to say is that the musicians on this forum should try and evaluate some of these 'least' favorites from a non-musician perspective. You might be surprised at the differences in your lists.
Tony