He's not talking about a key change, he's talking about a different vocal take being punched in.
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He's not talking about a key change, he's talking about a different vocal take being punched in.
nalsoRegards Goodbye To Love,
at 1m16s, "from this day love is forgotten..."
there is a noticeable change in Karen's lead,
no matter what this change is called.
I caught it immediately.
Too bad. I assume there is a reason that it was done.
I'd love to ask Richard Carpenter about it.
I hear this same effect on CD and digital download.With headphones I find the "phasy" effect too distracting, but through my sound system I don't notice it at all. Could it be a fault with the downloaded file I listen to on my headphones that isn't present on the cd which I play on my soundsystem.
Try listening to the CD with headphones. I have a digital file which plays fine through speakers but that strange sound effect is loud and clear with headphones. It stands out more as only certain parts of the recording have that sound.With headphones I find the "phasy" effect too distracting, but through my sound system I don't notice it at all. Could it be a fault with the downloaded file I listen to on my headphones that isn't present on the cd which I play on my soundsystem.
Could there be an alternative vocal take for the whole song, those alternative few bars must have come from somewhere, surely there isn’t a software that could try to replicate that vocal, and insert a corrected version.Regards Goodbye To Love,
at 1m16s, "from this day love is forgotten..."
there is a noticeable change in Karen's lead,
no matter what this change is called.
I caught it immediately.
Too bad. I assume there is a reason that it was done.
I'd love to ask Richard Carpenter about it.
Chris, nice avatar shuffling in honour of Mr. Dragon!Try listening to the CD with headphones. I have a digital file which plays fine through speakers but that strange sound effect is loud and clear with headphones. It stands out more as only certain parts of the recording have that sound.
Could there be an alternative vocal take for the whole song, those alternative few bars must have come from somewhere, surely there isn’t a software that could try to replicate that vocal, and insert a corrected version.
Just as I read this, that particular section of the song was playing, which was weird. I agree. “From this day, love is forgotten” is definitely from a different take. To me, it seems strange to put this snippet in there, because Karen sounds not quite on the mark in those few words, whereas the original vocal sounded perfect. I’ve only listened to this new ‘Goodbye to Love’ a couple of times since buying the album because, for me, the piccolo trumpet (?) sounds so out of place and spoils the song.Regards Goodbye To Love,
at 1m16s, "from this day love is forgotten..."
there is a noticeable change in Karen's lead,
no matter what this change is called.
I caught it immediately.
Too bad. I assume there is a reason that it was done.
I'd love to ask Richard Carpenter about it.
I didn’t realise Mr. Dragon had died. Another thing that I read about here first. I used to like Captain & Tennille back in the 70s, too.Chris, nice avatar shuffling in honour of Mr. Dragon!
on one of the compilations, the recording engineer says, " ni-yun (nine) " so there are alternate vocals.
Those few bars of overdubs are some of the best they ever did on goodbye to love. To go from quiet to that wall of sound is very special. John Eidsvoog mentioned the trumpet was originally only supposed to come in on the second repeat of vocals. This would have worked much better in my opinion. You'd be able to enjoy the voices then the trumpet then the guitar. Still would have been better just vocals.Just as I read this, that particular section of the song was playing, which was weird. I agree. “From this day, love is forgotten” is definitely from a different take. To me, it seems strange to put this snippet in there, because Karen sounds not quite on the mark in those few words, whereas the original vocal sounded perfect. I’ve only listened to this new ‘Goodbye to Love’ a couple of times since buying the album because, for me, the piccolo trumpet (?) sounds so out of place and spoils the song.
Was it timing? Was Roy’s issues around the holidays?That is great news. That said...I guess I am just biased toward the Carpenters, but I don't understand why the Roy Orbison RPO is in the top ten of the UK Album Chart at #6 while the Carpenters RPO is down at #23. Was the promotion lacking?
That is great news. That said...I guess I am just biased toward the Carpenters, but I don't understand why the Roy Orbison RPO is in the top ten of the UK Album Chart at #6 while the Carpenters RPO is down at #23. Was the promotion lacking?
Was it timing? Was Roy’s issues around the holidays?
I will just go ahead and say it....Is there actually more "love" out there for Roy Orbison these days than there is for the Carpenters? Really??